Safe recommendations for apartment

[LongLiveTheRepublic]

Thanks for the advice all, I can't bolt anything to the walls due to the rental agreement. I guess I'll have to go with a heavy safe and maybe bolting it to a separate steel base that's too wide for the door. My budget is around $2k or less. I'll check out the modular safe recommendations, so far I'm leaning towards just getting a liberty safe.

[sigstroker]

I'm more worried about targeted hits since it's not too hard to dolly the thing out and use the elevator. I'm sure people can put two and two together when you they see me walking in and out of my place with what looks like a gun bag.

Nosy neighbors are the worst. I usually carried my bags out at 2 a.m. I'd rather leave them locked in the trunk overnight than have everyone see me carrying it.

How does that help OP? He DOES have an elevator.

There is no such place. Nice places get robbed because that's where the good stuff is. I lived in a VERY nice place, gated parking garage, needed a key to get inside the building, etc. I still got robbed multiple times.

[Den60]

If you not bolting it down it better be too big and heavy for 2 adult males to carry away or it's useless

If you bolt it to a steel plate that is too big to go through the door it would be pretty secure.

[pacifico23]

Hide in plain site in places they don't want to look. In an old cereal box, in a book , in the hamper beneath a bunch of dirty clothes.

[Jimi Jah]

A pistol in a zip lock bag under the kitty litter will always be safe except when kitty decides to poop.

[17+1]

[ar15barrels]

Thanks for the advice all, I can't bolt anything to the walls due to the rental agreement.

Did you hang any pictures on the walls?
Spackle covers holes in walls when you are moving out.

Don't use bolts to mount your safe.
Use screws instead.

Screws simply thread into the wood studs behind the drywall.
Screwing is not the same as bolting.
Bolts use nuts and installing the nuts leaves a much larger hole.
Screw holes can be patched very very easily.

[LongLiveTheRepublic]

You're right, small holes are fine as long as I cover them after. Maybe I can do that.

[ar15barrels]

You're right, small holes are fine as long as I cover them after. Maybe I can do that.

Look at Fastenmaster Headlok engineered screws.
They are just under 1/4" diameter but match the load capacity of a 3/8" lag screw.
You can buy small packs of them at Home Depot.

If you sink 4 of those into two studs through the back of the safe, it's not going anywhere.

[Usmc0844spare]

Make it more discrete. Put the range bag in a duffel. Rifle bag wrap in a blanket.

Yeah, when I go to the range I always back my car up to the garage and try to slip gun cases into trunk unobserved. Pretty easy in the early AM when I am leaving, but by noon the street is much busier and I spend a lot of time waiting for gaps in the traffic.

Probably overly paranoid but all it takes is the wrong s**t-bag getting lucky and driving by at the exact moment I am taking my rifle case out of my trunk and mentally saying "Ohhh! Guns for free! I'll be back to check on that house later!"

[LTC-J]

As others said, lag bolt it to the wall and fill when you leave... if needed.

Keep in mind that some items in rentals can't be charged for after a certain amount of time. I don't know where 3/8" holes in a wall would fall in this. I forget where carpets fall in this but the last rental I was in for an extended time(5+ years) ended up with a fair amount of damage that I couldn't get charged for

In same apartment, I used screws to the wall with a Stackon safe. Yes, it is a sheet metal safe. Not perfect but it is/was CA approved.

[CWL]

Bolt it to the floor. The carpet will fluff back up.

This.

Or, lift the carpet and bolt it to the floor. I'd still bolt it to the wall as well and just patch it when moving out. They normally will charge you to repaint it anyways.

Here's a fact that most people people don't know or consider: thieves don't usually carry large safes out, they flip it and pry the door open with a long crowbar. Bolted safes don't allow thieves to flip it and gain leverage.

https://youtu.be/P1iDz8Yt-ys

[LongLiveTheRepublic]

This.



Or, lift the carpet and bolt it to the floor. I'd still bolt it to the wall as well and just patch it when moving out. They normally will charge you to repaint it anyways.



Here's a fact that most people people don't know or consider: thieves don't usually carry large safes out, they flip it and pry the door open with a long crowbar. Bolted safes don't allow thieves to flip it and gain leverage.



https://youtu.be/P1iDz8Yt-ys

No carpet. I'm leaning towards just nailing it to the wall..

[beep_gun]

Buy two safes. Be sure you can bolt them together and they wont fit though any doors.

Then you can have extra capacity for collection.
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