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  • pratchett
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 870

    No crying in baseball. Calm down.

    “I put in an order and it hasn’t shipped.” “My order may or may not have shipped but I can’t get a tracking number.” “No one’s answering the phones anywhere. Why can’t I get an answer?” “The website says there are things in inventory and then I find out that’s not true.”

    I’ve been ready to address comments like these for a few days, and in a few dozen places. I don’t know if some of you mean to sound this way, but we are watching you show up to the supermarket 15 minutes before a CAT 5 hurricane and indignantly asking where all the water’s at. You’re rudely asking why nobody’s giving you an answer about where all the cans of soup are three days after an earthquake leveled every freeway in and out of California. We feel for you. But you can’t show up to Calguns with your “I want to talk to the manager" haircut and stage whisper “Oh my God, Karen, like, what the hell, you know? Who HIRES these people?”

    This isn’t hyperbole: we have literally broken the industry supply chain. We’ve shattered the logistics capability of nearly every mag vendor in America. Even if a truck pulled up now to these businesses with 17 pallets of magazines, they aren't going anywhere until they follow their logistics procedures. And their logistics procedures are now toast.

    Whatever your job, there are procedures in place that are based on dealing with the worst possible scenarios that you have historically dealt with. This circumstance, like the hurricane or earthquake I talked about a minute ago, is unimaginable. No one could prepare for something like this and still have a business. It’s just not the way business operates. If you prepared for something like this, you would be out of business.

    Case in point, there are no more Mini 14 magazines above five rounds in the country. In the COUNTRY. There may be a few hanging around some mom and pop shop in Cougar’s Crotch, New Mexico. And you may see some ghost magazines “in inventory” that don’t actually exist. But they’re gone. Do you have any idea what it takes to deplete the entire country of Mini 14 magazines? I guarantee you that corporate executives from Ruger, and a half dozen other major magazine manufacturers, are meeting on a daily and sometimes hourly basis about manufacturing and logistics, wondering how they are going to ramp up production and transport and still limit their exposure should this come to a screeching halt.

    So, it’s all true. Yes, they can’t cancel your order. Yes, they don’t know what has shipped and what hasn’t. Yes, they charged your card and nothing has happened yet. Yes, they don’t know what’s in inventory anymore. But these aren’t anyone’s fault. We have INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE from Arfcom selling their own personal inventory at zero profit just to fill the gap. We have major distributors who have said that they are pushing all orders NOT from California to the side so that they can fill ours as fast as they can. And that, my friends, is all anyone can do.

    So show some class. Don’t panic. Have some fun. Compliment these vendors, many of whom started taking orders and shipping early, when they were in legally muddy water. And, as my wife is fond of saying... “Calm your tits.”
    Last edited by pratchett; 04-04-2019, 7:51 AM.
  • #2
    shootsocal_dave
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Sep 2016
    • 1447

    Funny, brownells shipped quick WITH a discount code lol but I agree it’s funny/sad how buthurt people get so easily. I mean these companies are putting out 1000x normal volume. Wouldn’t you expect delay?
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    • #3
      Brian7581
      Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 166

      You know, I was about to log in and say just about the same thing. Thanks for writing this man. If anything at all, this just goes to where we've gone as a society. Don't get me wrong, I know we are essentially "victims" as well living behind enemy lines. However, let's not let our freedoms cost others their own peace and welfare. Just about none of these vendors are trying to "screw us" by shipping out of order or sending "fake" emails with tracking info. A lot of systems and procedures have been setup previously before this wave... A wave that no one could've anticipated. Be thankful that we even have a chance right now to enjoy our freedoms a bit more and be thankful for all these vendors who are busting their tail!

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      • #4
        creampuff
        • Jan 2006
        • 3730

        +++
        Agreed. I mentioned this in another post. But this is reason #102 why out of state vendors don’t like Californians.

        We act like the world circles around us.

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        • #5
          JasonB
          Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 178

          Cougar’s Crotch ... made me smile ... you are spot on with your post. Well said.
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          • #6
            AregularGuy
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 2792

            Amen! Good post and those who are impatiently cancelling orders should relax. The cancellations are just getting in the way of the rest of us getting our orders. It also makes the vendors regret doing business with the Snowflake Californians.
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            • #7
              Foulball
              • Jan 2009
              • 2827

              Well said pratchett.

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              • #8
                rustyx
                Member
                • May 2017
                • 307

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                • #9
                  The Dog Man
                  Member
                  • Jan 2017
                  • 205

                  Good post here. Instead, I feel we should be thanking any vendor that is putting in the work on behalf of CA buyers. They don't "owe it" to us to come in early and work late simply because CA has a narrow window of freedom. That's their choice, and they chose to help in any way they could as humans (keyword being humans).

                  Even the biggest firearms related e-retailers out there are not equivalent to Amazon in size and capacity, and they don't have Prime membership specials for CA Freedom Weekend. They all deserve a thank you and then some. I have zero doubt that they are putting in maximum effort to not only support their customer, but also support the underlying cause behind the influx of orders.

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                  • #10
                    BlackMoose
                    Junior Member
                    • Mar 2019
                    • 42

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                    • #11
                      MudCamper
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 4595

                      Yup OP. The Amazon Prime generation doesn't understand. Great post.

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                      • #12
                        Maulerrr
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 2058

                        You're absolutely right OP

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                        • #13
                          manny
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 542

                          exactly. Society has been transformed into the instant gratification mindset. Settle down and wait for your orders.
                          Geez, we used to be ecstatic just to have last years Brownells catalog. Then we mailed a check after filling in the order sheet and calculating shipping! Holy Cow! How did we manage???!!!
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                          • #14
                            A-J
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 2582

                            This, many times over.

                            I'm flashing back to the ammo shortage a few years ago when everyone was losing their minds over the same exact details. Most retail sellers of any item have processes st up to handle X amount of traffic at any given time, with some failsafes built in for spikes like Black Friday. I doubt that there's ANY company selling mags right now that had systems i place to handle the volume of orders placed across the state in such a short period of time. Even the largest retailers probably weren't ready for that kind of volume. So patience is the order of the day (pun intended) - just like during the ammo boom, if you ordered from a legit vendor, you WILL get what you ordered. It just might take longer than expected.
                            It was not a threat. It was an exaggerated response to an uncompromising stance. I was taught never to make a threat unless you are prepared to carry it out and I am not a fan of carrying anything. Even watching other people carrying things makes me uncomfortable. Mainly because of the possibility they may ask me to help.

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                            • #15
                              bruss01
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 5336

                              Terrific and well-written post. A dose of realism with a pinch of humor to make you smile. 5*
                              The one thing worse than defeat is surrender.

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