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  • Martiiin
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2016
    • 44

    Bi-metal Jacket being equated to Steel Core?

    Recently have been out shooting a couple times to get rid of some Tula that I bought just to plink. Went to two different ranges and both ran the bs "magnet test" on my rounds and said I couldn't use them. I talked to them and tried to explain the bi-metal jacket that Tula uses knowing that its a lead core and they didn't buy it and said that I could still face CA penalties for them sticking to the magnet in the first place. I know that steel core ammo isn't legal to use in CA due to sparking, wildfires, etc. and steel core rounds themselves have been pretty difficult to obtain to begin with.. Places like Walmart and other gun shops continue to sell these regardless of laws so my question is does this bi-metal jacket issue render cheap ammo brands like Tula, Wolf, etc. almost useless here in CA due to the steel core ban?
  • #2
    God Bless America
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2014
    • 5163

    Steel-jacketed lead core sparks too. I've seen it.

    It's not "BS."

    Shoot it at a range where it's allowed.

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    • #3
      vintagedude88
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 2034

      I've asked the same question you're asking except in a different way. If this stuff is useless at most ranges and BLM land why is it still being sold and bought? The answer seems to be that no one wants their secret desert bi-metal shooting spot to be known all over the forum.

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      • #4
        Martiiin
        Junior Member
        • Dec 2016
        • 44

        Originally posted by God Bless America
        Steel-jacketed lead core sparks too. I've seen it.

        It's not "BS."

        Shoot it at a range where it's allowed.
        Wasn't referring to it sparking as being BS, I am fully aware of the risk associated with the steel, my gripe is that essentially anything non-brass isn't permitted even though it complies with law stating no steel core. If California is so "anti-steel", why even allow commercial sale of it?

        Also, as far as shooting it at a range where its allowed that reenforces my point, I've yet to find a range or BLM land that allows it.

        Originally posted by vintagedude88
        I've asked the same question you're asking except in a different way. If this stuff is useless at most ranges and BLM land why is it still being sold and bought? The answer seems to be that no one wants their secret desert bi-metal shooting spot to be known all over the forum.
        Exactly my question, thanks for the rephrase.
        Last edited by Martiiin; 03-08-2019, 11:45 PM.

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        • #5
          GM4spd
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2008
          • 5682

          Originally posted by Martiiin
          If California is so "anti-steel", why even allow commercial sale of it?
          .
          Good point!

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          • #6
            edgerly779
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Aug 2009
            • 19871

            FUD on not legal in Ca . More idjits info. Cannot shoot magnetic ammo on most ranges and nowhere on BLM land. Armor piercing not legal in Ca steel core fine. Sebret magnetic ammo shooting spots should stay secret do not ever give up secret spots they area will be trashed in no time.
            Last edited by edgerly779; 03-09-2019, 6:20 AM.

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            • #7
              Spyder
              CGN Contributor
              • Mar 2008
              • 16955

              It's perfectly legal here. Not sure what you're talking about.

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              • #8
                Spyder
                CGN Contributor
                • Mar 2008
                • 16955

                Originally posted by edgerly779
                FUD on not legal in Ca . More idjits info. Cannot shoot magnetic ammo on most ranges and nowhere on BLM land.
                Eh? That's incorrect, as far as I know.

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                • #9
                  edgerly779
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 19871

                  ^^^ What part was incorrect?

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                  • #10
                    Spyder
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 16955

                    ^ as to that "nowhere on blm land", looking at their website, that is also FUD.

                    In the desert district, possession is prohibited. But not in northern or central.
                    Learn about current fire restriction, and any statewide or year-round fire restrictions near and on BLM-managed public lands in California.

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                    • #11
                      Spyder
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 16955

                      Not that it by itself means it's illegal, but I have shot with BLM rangers on BLM land many times up here, and they've brought steel core and steel jacketed ammo, shot it, shot mine, and never said anything about it. The local guys up here have always been very pro gun and pro shooter, with the exception of the typical jackwads that leave trash behind. But as a whole, the local BLM guys are great.

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                      • #12
                        edgerly779
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 19871

                        Sorry if I am wrong on all of BLM I only shoot in socalAnd not on BLM we have our own range and do not allow magnetic projectiles. Could care less about steel case. My big point was the nonsense about steel core being illegal in ca.
                        Last edited by edgerly779; 03-09-2019, 6:56 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Bug Catcher
                          Junior Member
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 21

                          I shoot Tula all the time on my range don’t assume we’re all stuck like you are.
                          Be kind. Be honest. Be consistent.

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                          • #14
                            edgerly779
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 19871

                            We chose to not allow magnetic ammo. We are in High desert and have had fires that burned half of our bird cover. We know magnetic ammo can spark fires so we don't take a chance. One fire was the dwp powerhouse fire and other was member parking in brush with catalytic converter. If geound cover is wet than little risk but with dry conditions and high fire risk why shoot it. So some people can save money?

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                            • #15
                              Spyder
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 16955

                              Ya, socal and up here are completely different worlds. I'm actually surprised that restriction hasn't been put in place, with our timberland!

                              Steel core and steel jacketed stuff is perfectly fine, IF folks are smart about it. But...many are dumb, hence heavy regulation.

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