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  • wilderness medic
    Banned
    • Mar 2018
    • 845

    Any infantry guys take Front Sight classes?

    Was it anything new? I imagine their classes in handguns would be greatly beneficial, but what about rifle?
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    tomk556
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 865

    Not infantry, but I'd say

    Front Sight pistol = good, lots to learn and fundamentals to practice.

    Front Sight Shotgun = good, lots to learn about running the gun.

    Front Sight Rifle = ehhhhh. Rifle is kind of like pistol, but with a rifle and greater distances. Rifle is all static targets and static shooting, mostly at 100 meters. I don't know what my ideal rifle course looks like- probably one on marksmanship and scout rifles and a second on squad movements- but Front Sight leaves a lot to be desired.

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    • #3
      wilderness medic
      Banned
      • Mar 2018
      • 845

      I’m really curious how much there would be to gain. I never really thought about it because I considered the military training very beginner and basic but weeks of nothing but firearms training is still probably more than anything they could teach in a two or four day class?

      Is their rifle class just ready up drills mag changes and shooting stance?

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      • #4
        tomk556
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 865

        This is a fairly decent write up on the class: https://www.guns.com/news/review/fro...y-rifle-course

        Your suspicion of ready ups, running the gun, and some basic marksmanship is about right. Most of the shooting is at least than 100 meters. If you can sight in an M4, run it, and are decently proficient with marksmanship you're not going to get much from the class.

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        • #5
          wilderness medic
          Banned
          • Mar 2018
          • 845

          Originally posted by tomk556
          This is a fairly decent write up on the class: https://www.guns.com/news/review/fro...y-rifle-course

          Your suspicion of ready ups, running the gun, and some basic marksmanship is about right. Most of the shooting is at least than 100 meters. If you can sight in an M4, run it, and are decently proficient with marksmanship you're not going to get much from the class.

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          • #6
            VolvoWrench
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 1007

            Nobody spends thousands of dollars to go to F.S. PM me if you're interested in a lifetime membership.
            Boston Strong!

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            • #7
              hermosabeach
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2009
              • 19520

              So frontsight teaches weaver- Impossible with plate carrier.

              Its OK to shoot isosceles but they don't coach that well.....

              Weaver also exposed your side due to bladed stance. The place that is not armored


              but yes, military folks do show up
              Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

              Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

              Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

              Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
              (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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              • #8
                damon1272
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2006
                • 4857

                The rifle class is not difficult but worth it to really run the rifle. Running under time is a good stressor.
                My issue with the class is that my back is trashed half way through. Going prone under time was painful. My chiropractor appreciates the business. Worth doing the class though.

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                • #9
                  ThePlinker
                  Member
                  • Dec 2018
                  • 176

                  Seems like a pyramid scheme when I talked to someone who had a booth at Phoenix gun show in December.

                  Hard sell , like a used car salesman approach.

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                  • #10
                    n8vrmind
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 1472

                    Was thinking of attention frontsight given close proximity of LV to SoCal, then I read about it's timeshare like marketing scheme and questionable connection with Scientology... So guess I will look elsewhere

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                    • #11
                      damon1272
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 4857

                      Originally posted by n8vrmind
                      Was thinking of attention frontsight given close proximity of LV to SoCal, then I read about it's timeshare like marketing scheme and questionable connection with Scientology... So guess I will look elsewhere

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                      For the $100-150 you would spend it would be some of the best money spent. When on site they are very professional and well run. They talk very little about memberships when there. Well worth the money even if you only go once.

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                      • #12
                        SnWnMe
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 6897

                        The first day in boot camp covers it all:

                        There's the civilian way and there's the service way.
                        Frank Da Tank

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                        • #13
                          WS6
                          Member
                          • Feb 2015
                          • 301

                          Originally posted by wilderness medic
                          I’m really curious how much there would be to gain. I never really thought about it because I considered the military training very beginner and basic but weeks of nothing but firearms training is still probably more than anything they could teach in a two or four day class?

                          Is their rifle class just ready up drills mag changes and shooting stance?
                          Have you actually served in a combat arms MOS in the military? Just curious.

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                          • #14
                            BillyGoatCrawler
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 2583

                            Your unit never do any movement drills? Blank and live fire exercise at fire team, squad, and platoon level? CQB/MOUT? Casualty recovery? Exiting/recovering disabled vehicle? There was much more than ready ups and mag changes that we did.
                            Kunar Prov, A'stan '08-'09, 1-26 INF

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                            • #15
                              sigstroker
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 19675

                              Originally posted by ThePlinker
                              Seems like a pyramid scheme when I talked to someone who had a booth at Phoenix gun show in December.

                              Hard sell , like a used car salesman approach.
                              Originally posted by n8vrmind
                              Was thinking of attention frontsight given close proximity of LV to SoCal, then I read about it's timeshare like marketing scheme and questionable connection with Scientology... So guess I will look elsewhere

                              Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk
                              Originally it was supposed to be a master planned community. Like a whole neighborhood made up of gun owners. A nice idea that didn't gain much traction. At some point it sort of became a multi-level marketing setup, like Shak-lee.

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