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  • #16
    jeremiah12
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 2065

    Stay out of all domestic disputes, especially divorces. Your wife's friend has an attorney, let the attorney do his or her job. Anything she says to you about her soon to be ex or the divorce can cause you to end up in court to testify as to what she told you and get you involved in the drama.

    Add to this you are only hearing her side of the story. You have no way to know exactly what happen to the guns and you and your wife have no right to that information. That is for the court, the DA, and the attorneys to deal with.

    If he is threatening her, she needs to file a police report and include in the report what she believes happened to the guns.

    There is way too much speculation and the legal system does not operate on speculation. The legal rights of all get to be protected so there has to be hard evidence and proof.

    As others have said, back in 1981, paperless transfers were legal. I am old enough to have bought a few guns they way they are still bought in free states from private parties. You meet up, the buyer hands the money to the seller and the seller hands the gun to the buyer and both go on their way.

    My first rifle was bought in Kmart, off the shelf and paid for at the cash register. That was here in Santa Cruz, CA. it was my birthday present when I turned 11. I picked it out and mom paid for it. I still have it and there is no paperwork on it.

    That was the way things were done when America was free.
    Anyone can look around and see the damage to the state and country inflicted by bad politicians.

    A vote is clearly much more dangerous than a gun.

    Why advocate restrictions on one right (voting) without comparable restrictions on another (self defense) (or, why not say 'Be a U.S. citizen' as the requirement for CCW)?

    --Librarian

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    • #17
      sfe187
      Banned
      • Sep 2016
      • 1770

      Maybe OP has eyes on the gun collection or maybe just want to bang wife's friend, let him be.

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      • #18
        sigstroker
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2009
        • 19913

        Originally posted by ChuckDizzle
        Ohh cool, I also charge $225 an hour for legal research...
        You work cheap.

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        • #19
          bronco75a
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2016
          • 659

          So you want to help your wife's friend get her husband arrested and/or get his firearms confiscated.

          You're such a prince.

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          • #20
            Frank1911
            Member
            • Mar 2016
            • 121

            Originally posted by jeremiah12
            Stay out of all domestic disputes, especially divorces. Your wife's friend has an attorney, let the attorney do his or her job. Anything she says to you about her soon to be ex or the divorce can cause you to end up in court to testify as to what she told you and get you involved in the drama.

            Add to this you are only hearing her side of the story. You have no way to know exactly what happen to the guns and you and your wife have no right to that information. That is for the court, the DA, and the attorneys to deal with.

            If he is threatening her, she needs to file a police report and include in the report what she believes happened to the guns.

            There is way too much speculation and the legal system does not operate on speculation. The legal rights of all get to be protected so there has to be hard evidence and proof.

            As others have said, back in 1981, paperless transfers were legal. I am old enough to have bought a few guns they way they are still bought in free states from private parties. You meet up, the buyer hands the money to the seller and the seller hands the gun to the buyer and both go on their way.

            My first rifle was bought in Kmart, off the shelf and paid for at the cash register. That was here in Santa Cruz, CA. it was my birthday present when I turned 11. I picked it out and mom paid for it. I still have it and there is no paperwork on it.

            That was the way things were done when America was free.
            What he said. [emoji3595]

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            • #21
              sanjoseskater
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2014
              • 597

              Woman are crazy.... who knows what really happened?? They always play the victim card always!!!! Stay out of it I’m sure both sides are at fault for doing things they shouldn’t have done, why get involved in a domestic dispute???

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              • #22
                freonr22
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Dec 2008
                • 12948

                maybe I missed it, I didn't see anyone mentioned. a power of attorney, that's free??

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                Originally posted by dantodd
                We will win. We are right. We will never stop fighting.
                Originally posted by bwiese
                They don't believe it's possible, but then Alison didn't believe there'd be 350K - 400K OLLs in CA either.
                Originally posted by louisianagirl
                Our fate is ours alone to decide as long as we remain armed heavily enough to dictate it.

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                • #23
                  BigPimping
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 21487

                  MYOB...….not your problem. You will regret sticking your nose where it does not belong.
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                  PIMP stands for Positive Intellectual Motivated Person

                  When pimping begins, friendship ends.

                  Don't let your history be a mystery

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                  • #24
                    Roering
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 688

                    Originally posted by DolphinFan
                    How many codes, laws or regulations were violated and what are their numbers.
                    Until this is proven? None.

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                    • #25
                      RandyD
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 6673

                      Originally posted by DolphinFan
                      Wife's friend is getting a divorce. Husband not being cooperative. Husband was physically violent and abusive and was issued a DVRO.
                      Husband handed firearms collection to brother who may or may not have a HSC and NO FFL was used in the transfer. Collection included long guns, handguns and possibly one or more unregistered Assault Rifles.
                      She has another hearing coming up for a permanent Restraining Order.

                      How many codes, laws or regulations were violated and what are their numbers.

                      Husband likely still has access to firearms in form of keys to brothers house and keys or combination to safe, IF in a safe at all.

                      Some firearms were originally transferred in 1981 after the father died to sons without proper Inter-family transfer. Just handed to them, so not registered to either.

                      Transfer between brothers was in October 2017 After DVRO.

                      Thank you for your help.
                      I am a family law attorney. In my opinion, you are unnecessarily interjecting yourself in the case. It is a rare situation, where a 3rd party adds value to the case. I have experienced this numerous times, an unnecessary 3rd party attends a meeting with my client and I, and he wants to suggest courses of action (meaning, he wants to exert control), and after the meeting I get a call from my client who informs me of the course of action they want, which is different than the course suggested by the 3rd party. My client does not have the fortitude to set the 3rd party straight, leaving that to me.

                      When a DVTRO is issued, the court uses form DV-110, Temporary Restraining Order, and on page 3, Item 9, it clearly states all options if the restrained person owns or is in possession of firearms. I have attached a pdf copy of the form.
                      Last edited by RandyD; 10-11-2020, 2:02 PM.
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                      • #26
                        vintagearms
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 6841

                        Originally posted by bronco75a
                        So you want to help your wife's friend get her husband arrested and/or get his firearms confiscated.

                        You're such a prince.
                        THIS. Never believe a woman going thru a divorce. They will make S up just to get the upper hand.

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                        • #27
                          BABUSA
                          Member
                          • Dec 2015
                          • 245

                          Let her attorney handle it. MYOB

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                          • #28
                            toiletfighter
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 3870

                            Keep sticking your nose in places it doesn’t belong, don’t be surprised when someone lands a fist on it.

                            MYOB, OP. You sound worse than a gossiping old bag.
                            Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God

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                            • #29
                              Mr. Beretta
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 6614

                              Originally posted by BABUSA
                              Let her attorney handle it. MYOB

                              This X 10 !

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                              • #30
                                Bigtwin
                                Veteran Member
                                • May 2010
                                • 2639

                                Mind your own business can't be said enough in this thread!
                                NRA MEMBER

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