Turning a liberal to a liberal gun owner?

[Mute]

The biggest problem you're going to have is to convince them to stop voting D even if those who aren't blatantly anti-gun. They will refuse to understand that giving the D's majority will also give them all of the committee positions which are the real base of political power and will be controlled by the most left wing and extremist elements of CA's progressive political base. I know plenty of liberal gun owners who didn't vote for Newsom but pretty much voted democrat on every other office and voted opposite what I chose on all ballot propositions.

[Jimi Jah]

My Santa Cruz bred relatives love to go shooting with me. They still vote for communists.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

[hunterb]

wouldn't that also be like equating the way you vote to a single issue? i know many people do that, but not everyone

i believe people don't vote solely Dem or Rep because of gun issues - many people voting Dem do it because of their beliefs with other social issues - im willing to bet some Dem voters don't even consider what the blow back will be concerning gun rights due to their vote

could there be more to their reasoning for voting one way or the other besides gun rights? I think so, or it would seem like your political affiliation would come down to solely how you feel about guns and to some people guns aren't even an issue to them - doesn't mean they are necessarily anti-gun, they're just not particularly putting gun ownership issues above everything else they believe in

let's turn it around for a second and see how it looks:

what if the Democratic party was the 2nd Amendment party, pro gun, and the Republican party was anti-gun - all other issues remained the same, the only difference being gun rights

what party would you support? a party that wants open borders, a party that is ok with males using female restrooms, a party that supports killing babies but as long as they were pro gun too they would have your vote?

sure, it's a hypothetical, but it's not that far fetched - point being guns are their own issue and aren't always the deal breaker when people decide which way they want to lean

The 2nd Amendment ensures ALL THE OTHERS. SO yes, the 2nd amendment is THE MOST IMPORTANT, PERIOD, END OF STORY.

it's one of the reasons why I don't automatically jump to conclusions when someone tells me they are Democrat, especially here in NV

you'd be surprised at the amount of Democrats who also are firearms owners

maybe they don't see it as many here feel, you know, "Dems coming for your guns" and all - maybe they see it all as stuff on our side - i don't know, having lived here for 3 years now i see a bit of a different Democrat - they're not all extremist trying to take away everyone's gun rights - not now at least

how it all evolves later is yet to be seen

Fair enough. I agree Democrats in other states are often VERY different. CA Democrats are a special breed of left-wing stupid. Extremist, America-hating, racist, intolerant, violent morons.

I have a liberal buddy that’s gotten crazy into shooting. He recently joined the NRA and now complains about CA gun laws and stopped voting liberal. It can happen.

THIS GIVES ME HOPE!!!!!

[FalconLair]

Until they solidify power then the swarm to go full anti with corrupt media auspices and fake narratives .

i won't argue with you about that, my experiences in CA are more than enough to show me how things can go

im just stating what i see right now, doesn't mean i like or endorse it

[Brush Guard]

My Santa Cruz bred relatives love to go shooting with me. They still vote for communists.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

[RollingCode3]

I told all my liberal friends this whenever they ask me to take them to the shooting range. Join the nra and i will teach you everything about guns. I will pay for range fee and ammo. No nra = no shooting range. So far only two took my offer.

[FalconLair]

The 2nd Amendment ensures ALL THE OTHERS. SO yes, the 2nd amendment is THE MOST IMPORTANT, PERIOD, END OF STORY.

Fair enough. I agree Democrats in other states are often VERY different. CA Democrats are a special breed of left-wing stupid. Extremist, America-hating, racist, intolerant, violent morons.

that is the deal breaker im hoping for - being a state that does still have many pro gun Democrats, getting them all to fall in line with their own party when it comes to taking them away might be difficult - there's sure to be some sort of divide

not saying it can't happen, might be years away, when they can further thin the herd of pro-gun Democrats living here or at least sufficiently outnumber them - there are already Democrats here that, even being pro-gun, do favor some type of gun control, right now it mainly centers around gun registration and better background checks (whatever that means) - funny thing, i've also seen Republicans that are in agreement with that too, which, further proves that when it comes to the gun issue and our rights it's not a straight across the board Democrat or Republican thing, at least not yet in NV

our main argument against registration is that it will ultimately lead to confiscation and we use history as our evidence - unfortunately, not everyone buys into that so it can easily be debunked as rhetoric or more tin foil hat thinking - for some, citing the past is no guarantee as to what can happen in the future - my argument against registration has always been that there is no evidence it will reduce crimes committed with guns in any manner, criminals don't follow the rules - CA is a perfect example of that argument

either way, im still hopeful for this state, at least in the short term, which would probably be my lifetime - can't really say where the state will be 25 years from now - the good thing is, there is still some fight left here, the last 10 years i lived in CA i stopped feeling that way and by the way things look now im pretty sure i was right

[Sierra57]

You might be surprised to know that people other than authoritarians, white christian nationalists, xenophobes, and angry, fearful (mostly old) white people are allowed to own guns.

There is in fact a "Liberal Gun Club of America".

https://theliberalgunclub.com

FYI.

LOL! Got any more childish, false labels you want to toss out?

[GreggieBoy]

Liberal until someone kicks in their front door. Not all cases change their minds, but some will.

[ja308]

Many ranges have applications to join the NRA .
NRA membership identifies a shooter as one of the good people.
From now on I will only teach those who identify as a good gun owner!

Everyone should consider doing the same !

[OCEquestrian]

Many ranges have applications to join the NRA .
NRA membership identifies a shooter as one of the good people.
From now on I will only teach those who identify as a good gun owner!

Everyone should consider doing the same !

I always ask anyone I meet at a range who clearly need help if they belong to NRA / CRPA. If no I ask them why. If they offer no reason or opposition, I offer to help / instruct them but the price of my help is to complete an NRA application and join the fight. Anyone who opposes the NRA, I comment on their "nice gun" and mind my own business as long as they dont point their gun at me or anyone else.