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  • jdberger
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    • Oct 2005
    • 8944

    AK or SKS? What's the diff?

    Given the recent shootings in Oakland, and the media's insistence that the rifle used was an AK-47 and not an SKS - I was thinking, is it really in our interest to highlight the difference?

    With the media claiming that the gun used was an AK - we can claim that:
    • AKs have been banned in California for 20 years because California has an assault weapons ban.
    • There isn't a legal way to purchase an AK in California.
    • Refocus the debate where it belongs, on the scumbag.


    If we shift the attention to the SKS - we open a can of worms.

    Even though the SKS doesn't qualify as an AW under California's AW ban nor under the defunct Fed ban - there have been movements to include it.

    The SKS is inexpensive, it has a military heritage, it's a semi-auto, it's an East Bloc caliber...

    All these things make it a target of a more comprehensive AW ban.

    Media attention that focuses on a rifle that "shoots through walls" and "killed SWAT officers wearing bulletproof vests" can't be good for us. Further "revelations" that "these weapons of war" are available in just about every California gun shop for under $200 have the potential to create a media frenzy and an "outraged" call to ban the SKS in California.

    It also plays into the hands of demogogues like Carolyn McCarthy who wanted to not only reinstate the Fed AW, but radically expand it, because it didn't cover rifles like the SKS.

    Do we want that kind of attention?

    I think that we should let the media prattle on about the AK. I think that it won't have any traction. It's clear that this wasn't some misunderstood emo kid who was mad at the world for picking on him. The gun is just a straw man - and the public realizes it.

    Thoughts?


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    B.D.Dubloon
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    • Nov 2008
    • 4873

    Aren't AKs legal in Ca? People sell them on here all the time.

    And where in Cali can you get an sks for under 200 bucks? I don't think you can get them under 300, and most are 400ish.

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    • #3
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      • Oct 2005
      • 44660

      If we can establish SKS, then we also establish (to no one's surprise)
      • even the 'experts' get identification wrong
      • media are too credulous and therefore not credible
      • media prefer to use 'scary' terms
      • even non-aw are capable, therefore nothing is special about aw

      Not that any one actually cares, of course. It's like correcting spelling here - some people feel all is well 'so long as people understand'; with rifles, it's 'so long as people understand guns are bad'.
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      • #4
        Gator Monroe
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        • Oct 2007
        • 6422

        Soon enough pic of both of the perps guns will be shown ...

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        • #5
          bombadillo
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          • Nov 2007
          • 14810

          Doesn't matter, either way its a "military style assault rifle" in the libs eyes. They're all evil and bad.

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            mecam
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            • Jun 2007
            • 4049

            AK on top, SKS on bottom



            You have to watch this KTVU report.




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            • #7
              mvpatriot
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              • Jan 2008
              • 2178

              Originally posted by mecam
              AK on top, SKS on bottom



              You have to watch this KTVU report.




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              • #8
                jdberger
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                • Oct 2005
                • 8944

                The SKS is banned in CA?

                Those wacky fact-checkers must be playing a joke on that reporter.

                TV reporters have fact-checkers, don't they? They do research what they're talking about, don't they?
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                • #9
                  sorensen440
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                  • Mar 2007
                  • 8612

                  Originally posted by jdberger
                  The SKS is banned in CA?

                  Those wacky fact-checkers must be playing a joke on that reporter.

                  TV reporters have fact-checkers, don't they? They do research what they're talking about, don't they?
                  The more they spread the fud that an sks is already against the law the better of we are imo.
                  hard to call for new regulations when one already "exists" for the rifle used in the murders.
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                    yellowfin
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                    • Nov 2007
                    • 8371

                    The good thing that I have seen is that the reporting has done a very good job of emphasizing he was a repeat offender with pending rape charges. I think that takes most of the heat off what he used.
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                    • #11
                      Futurecollector
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                      • Oct 2008
                      • 11560

                      Originally posted by B.D.Dubloon
                      Aren't AKs legal in Ca? People sell them on here all the time.

                      And where in Cali can you get an sks for under 200 bucks? I don't think you can get them under 300, and most are 400ish.
                      Haha after reading this whole post I agree with you,
                      Where the hell can I get an sks for $200 if you have on PM me lol,

                      anyways, Isnt there a specific Ak thats banned?
                      None of my posts are serious or real, nothing I post is legal advice.

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                      • #12
                        rp55
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                        • Feb 2009
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                        Originally posted by mecam
                        You have to watch this KTVU report.

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                        Ha Ha! That KTVU announcer looks just like the bonehead news dude from the original Die Hard.

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                        • #13
                          domokun
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                          • Apr 2008
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                          Originally posted by mecam
                          You have to watch this KTVU report.

                          Why does this video remind me of the KPIX video with Iggy in it that talks about "assault weapons" in CA?
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                          • #14
                            dadoody
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                            • Oct 2005
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                            Originally posted by mecam
                            AK on top, SKS on bottom



                            You have to watch this KTVU report.




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                            They state the SKS is illegal in California - it's not. Certain configurations might be.

                            If they're gonna be anti-gun, they could at least do some fact checking.
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                            • #15
                              Seesm
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                              • Nov 2008
                              • 7812

                              Hey so I googled a SKS for sale and I found this... hey I got $200 in my HAND... I am looking for C&R SKS for $200 BTW...

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