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  • ChonchAR
    Member
    • Apr 2018
    • 356

    Pro’s and Con’s RAW

  • #2
    trackcage
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2015
    • 1777

    Make your own choice. Then live with it.

    Or read one of eleventy billion other threads on the topic.

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    • #3
      unusedusername
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 4124

      In order to register an AW in this round, you must have purchased it and had it completely assembled prior to 1/1/17 (you must have built it in or before 2016!!!). You can not register your "DD" that you got in "17", and it shouldn't have a bullet button on it, since it was built after the new laws.



      In case you have other firearms...

      A non-AW long gun purchased before 2014 isn't on any "lists", as the state DROS software didn't have a way to enter the Make/Model/Serial for long guns at that time. The state of California knows you did a "long gun buy" or a "long gun sale", but they don't know which long gun without doing an FBI check.

      The FBI check requires that they start off by knowing the serial number, generally by finding the gun then backtracking to the owner. That check system does not have an easy way to ask "What guns does this person own".

      All long guns purchased in California after 2014 are registered to you in a State of California database by make/model/caliber and serial number, meaning the state already knows you have them.

      This means that a non-AW long gun you purchased before 2014 "isn't on a list", while a non-AW long gun that you purchased after 2014 is "already on a list".
      Last edited by unusedusername; 05-18-2018, 1:01 PM.

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      • #4
        GW
        I need a LIFE!!
        • May 2004
        • 16078

        Originally posted by unusedusername
        ??

        All long guns purchased in California after 2014 are registered to you in a State of California database by make/model/caliber and serial number, meaning the state already knows you have them.
        And yet, they " need" to have you re-register them. Why do you suppose that is?
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        • #5
          unusedusername
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 4124

          Originally posted by GW
          And yet, they " need" to have you re-register them. Why do you suppose that is?
          They want photos. DROS does not take photos.

          The re-registration also prevents you from selling it.

          You can fill out this form to see what the DOJ has registered to you. I have done this and can confirm that my pre-2014 long guns are not on it, while my post-2014 long guns are on it.
          Last edited by unusedusername; 05-18-2018, 1:07 PM.

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          • #6
            Phalanx20mm
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2016
            • 624

            There is no Pro

            Here's the Con (pun intended)
            When you register a AW you are admitting you have an item they defined by Dilly Dilly and will change that definition on a whim. What do you thing the tyrants have in mind?

            Most of the gun laws violate ex post facto, they are illegal at their core. The Communists that control the Republic of California have no problem violating every aspect the US Constitution they swore to uphold when they took office.
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            • #7
              ChonchAR
              Member
              • Apr 2018
              • 356

              Originally posted by unusedusername
              In order to register an AW in this round, you must have purchased it and had it completely assembled prior to 1/1/17 (you must have built it in or before 2016!!!). You can not register your "DD" that you got in "17", and it shouldn't have a bullet button on it, since it was built after the new laws.

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              • #8
                Mandalorian
                Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 387

                Amen to that Phalanx

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                • #9
                  srt2806
                  Member
                  • May 2014
                  • 131

                  My opinion, featureless is the easiest way and worry free option.

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                  • #10
                    ChonchAR
                    Member
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 356

                    Originally posted by srt2806
                    My opinion, featureless is the easiest way and worry free option.

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                    • #11
                      heyjerr
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 1185

                      Aside from putting yourself on a list for people to use to confiscate, as one done in Britain and Australia, there are additional rules when transporting a RAW. Basically if you go anywhere else, or stop along the way....say for gas or a drivethrough, you are technically breaking a rule.


                      HANDGUNS Pursuant to California Penal Code section 25610, a United States citizen over 18 years of age who is not prohibited from firearm possession, and who resides or is temporarily in California, may transport by motor vehicle any handgun provided it is unloaded and locked in the vehicle’s trunk or in a locked container. Furthermore, the handgun must be carried directly to or from any motor vehicle for any lawful purpose and, while being carried must be contained within a locked container.

                      REGISTERED ASSAULT WEAPONS

                      California Penal Code section 30945, subdivision (g) provides that registered assault weapons may be transported only between specified locations and must be unloaded and stored in a locked container when transported.

                      Pursuant to California Penal Code section 16850, the term "locked container" means a secure container that is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment.
                      Do not try and bend the spoon, that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth...there is no spoon.

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                      • #12
                        ChonchAR
                        Member
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 356

                        Man at this point they sucked all the fun out. I got a good year having fun now everything seems dark. Wonder if jut selling it and collecting pistols/shotguns is a better option

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                        • #13
                          mshill
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 4453

                          Originally posted by ChonchAR
                          Man at this point they sucked all the fun out. I got a good year having fun now everything seems dark. Wonder if jut selling it and collecting pistols/shotguns is a better option
                          Yea, collect all the pistols you want, as long as it is on their approved list.

                          RAW, Fixed Mag, Featureless do some of each or none at all. They all have drawbacks. I have some of each but will likely move my featureless to fixed magazine and (unless the lawsuit against the regs is successful) unregister my RAW AR and make it fixed mag. I am keeping my Tavor RAW so it can stay 26.25" overall length even though I hate the bullet button on it.
                          The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.

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                          • #14
                            colossians323
                            Crusader for the truth!
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 21637

                            Registration sucks. Ask anyone who owns machine guns
                            LIVE FREE OR DIE!

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                            I dream about the day that the average would-be rapist is afraid to approach a woman who's walking alone at night. I dream of the day when two punks talk each other out of sticking up a liquor store because it's too damn risky.

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                            • #15
                              ChonchAR
                              Member
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 356

                              Originally posted by mshill
                              Yea, collect all the pistols you want, as long as it is on their approved list.

                              RAW, Fixed Mag, Featureless do some of each or none at all. They all have drawbacks. I have some of each but will likely move my featureless to fixed magazine and (unless the lawsuit against the regs is successful) unregister my RAW AR and make it fixed mag. I am keeping my Tavor RAW so it can stay 26.25" overall length even though I hate the bullet button on it.

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