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  • #16
    gforce357
    Member
    • Jan 2018
    • 222

    Very well thought out and written Eduardo....thank you! I will also be sharing this.

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    • #17
      eswrite
      Member
      • Mar 2018
      • 463

      Originally posted by eastmanwes
      Succinct and strong. I will be sharing this. Thank you.
      Originally posted by gforce357
      Very well thought out and written Eduardo....thank you! I will also be sharing this.
      Great. Need to get out of our bubbles and pass the good word around.

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      • #18
        Jimmy's
        Veteran Member
        • May 2016
        • 2600

        Just a very sad reminder as to what's happening with the world.

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        • #19
          eswrite
          Member
          • Mar 2018
          • 463

          Originally posted by Jimmy's
          Just a very sad reminder as to what's happening with the world.
          Yes. As a case in point, check out this instance of a modern speech tool being used to bring violence and death. Spoiler alert: Facebook.

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          • #20
            oliebollen
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2017
            • 2

            Excellent read, I'll share this with anyone I can

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            • #21
              k1dude
              I need a LIFE!!
              • May 2009
              • 15715

              What you're neglecting though, was the fallacy about only muskets being included in the 2nd.

              When the founders penned the 2nd, there was indeed semi-autos and full-autos. They were aware of those weapons. The citizen soldiers also brought forth privately held warships, cannons, mortars, and explosives for use in the Revolutionary War. The 2nd was written with all those weapons in mind for citizens to possess.

              In addition, when the 2nd was written, the definition of militia meant the whole of the people. The modern definition of "militia" being the National Guard didn't exist until 100 years after the 2nd was written.
              "Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill

              "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" - Senator Barry Goldwater

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              • #22
                eswrite
                Member
                • Mar 2018
                • 463

                Originally posted by k1dude
                What you're neglecting though, was the fallacy about only muskets being included in the 2nd...
                Good points all around. I've heard that argument, and while it makes a lot of sense, I wanted to frame an argument that put the other side in our shoes. "What if you have to give up your favorite tool to exercise your favorite amendment?"

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                • #23
                  M76
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 5953

                  Great, but logical; the left are non-believers of logic
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                  Originally posted by dunndeal
                  Stop digging.
                  Originally posted by BrassCase
                  I only buy fireworks from Three Finger Willie over at One Eyed Jack's Fireworks.
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                  https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1884858

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                  • #24
                    rugershooter
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 1804

                    The OP is the same idiot that was advocating for 2A violations in another thread...

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                    • #25
                      pdq_wizzard
                      Veteran Member
                      • May 2008
                      • 3813

                      Originally posted by rugershooter
                      The OP is the same idiot that was advocating for 2A violations in another thread...
                      Well maybe someone changed his mind?

                      OP that is one fine article!

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                      Q: What was the most positive result of the "Cash for Clunkers" program?
                      A: It took 95% of the Obama bumper stickers off the road.

                      Originally posted by M. Sage
                      More what? More crazy?
                      You live in California. There's always more crazy. It's a renewable resource.

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                      • #26
                        rugershooter
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 1804

                        Originally posted by pdq_wizzard
                        Well maybe someone changed his mind?

                        OP that is one fine article!

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                        More likely, he's a liar.

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                        • #27
                          warbird
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 2049

                          Never justify your position or your choice of weapons. when you do then you are the defensive and have most likely lost the fight before it started. Take the high ground in any attempt to debate you. simply cite the rights you have, and make those rights non-negotiable. that will frustrate them, make them angry, and an angry usually does not think straight making your job of defeating him much more possible. They want change and you don't and if they cannot negotiate them they cannot win without violence and then they lose anyway because they have proven your point that you need the weapons in question to provide self defense. They can only win if they can resort to violence and you cannot defeat them. They want what you have and dying for it does them no good. the fear of death in a confrontation is what keeps them honest.

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