Walkouts!

[olddirtygerm]

There were kids that walked out of my son's class but he did not.

[ja308]

I don't recall organized nationwide walks-outs to protest the following school related problems:

The frequently recurring problem of teachers (male and female) having carnal relations with their vulnerable underage students.

High drop out rates

Student pregancies

Good points !
lets add that walk outs should occur when a kid(student) is killed while driving a car or school bus accidents on the way to sporting events.

These problems are far more numerous and are mostly preventable .

Fortunately help could be on the way ! Yes cal gunners the lovely and brilliant secretary of education Betsy De Voss has plans for a voucher program that will allow parents to choose the school best suited for their needs!
When questioned about this policy destroying the public schools. De Voss replied " We are not interested in protecting whats best for the institution, we are interested in whats best for the child"!
Yay Betsy

[Waffleobill]

At my wife's Junior High she said just about everyone walked out, the mood was rowdy, raucous, a couple hundred kids left campus, swarmed across the major Avenue and took over the McDonald's and Qwick Stop. Complete and total cluster f@ck!

[wpage]

The wife said the honor students stayed and learned. The loser students walked out...

[Erion929]

At my wife's Junior High she said just about everyone walked out, the mood was rowdy, raucous, a couple hundred kids left campus, swarmed across the major Avenue and took over the McDonald's and Qwick Stop. Complete and total cluster f@ck!

Gee, didn't hear/see THAT ONE on the news

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[Waffleobill]

Gee, didn't hear/see THAT ONE on the news

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Fremont, CA. Thornton Junior High.

[land locked]

Both of my boys refused to walk out and stayed in class. I told them if they were told by their teacher to participate to call me and I would just pick them up for the day. Only a few other students stayed in class with them.

[chrish4ku]

What we see on TV and Interwebs news is a magnification of the few - and I'm not just talking about the bill of rights being under fire, but an entire social responsibility.

If the news used facts, numbers, and real stats it would be way to plain....

A call to action is required to call out BS, say no to Libby ShAfT types, and truly stand up to this movement. We can't let our kids think what they see on TV and Facebook is the truth..and it's heading that way.

I for one will sit down with my 13 year old this weekend and discuss reality and what this country is built on. It's not built on fear of inanimate objects and allowing some cities to dictate theoretical laws not even on the books, or to ignore the Constitutional rights every citizen has.

[Gringo Bandito]

Its funny how most everyone here is so casually dismissive of these kids. They have every right to protest however they want. Most here 'assume' they are being programmed/used/forced to participate in these protests. Sure there is an element of 'skip class, OK I'm in' for those without particularly strong feelings one way or the other. But like many generations of young people before them, this is the only way the adult world takes note of their concerns. Which are no less valid than anyone else's here.

These kids have minds of their own. Many are much better at reasoning than lots of adults I know.

Someone one said 'dissent is fuel in the engine of change'. Like it or not folks, the times they are a changing'.

Read this article.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/16/teen-gun-protest-funded-promoted-dozens-left-wingers-including-george-soros-backed-moveon-org/

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[IVC]

Its funny how most everyone here is so casually dismissive of these kids. They have every right to protest however they want. Most here 'assume' they are being programmed/used/forced to participate in these protests.

If the school sends out official e-mails about the protests and if kids with pro-gun messages are kicked out, I would call that "organized."

A legitimate protest by thinking students would be one where they figure it out on their own, then they go to some local venue *without* TV cameras and try to peddle their message or create change.

Not to mention that they should know what they are protesting in the first place. Am I the only one finding it EXTREMELY STUPID if CA kids are calling for AWB, universal background checks and limits on magazine capacity? We already have ALL OF THE ABOVE.

But like many generations of young people before them, this is the only way the adult world takes note of their concerns. Which are no less valid than anyone else's here.

Um, their concern is to push for laws that are already in place and blame the NRA not only for something that the NRA didn't do, but also for supposedly preventing passing laws that are ALREADY on the books in CA?

If you call that smart or praise worthy, I question your judgment.

These kids have minds of their own. Many are much better at reasoning than lots of adults I know.

Sure they are. Attacking NRA while not even knowing that what they are asking for is already in place is just brilliant. Mind of their own. Great analytical powers.

Someone one said 'dissent is fuel in the engine of change'. Like it or not folks, the times they are a changing'.

Dissent?? You're kidding. You're on the same page with them and so is the political apparatus of the state. What dissent? Do you even know what "dissent" means?

Times are sure "a changing'," just I'm not sure in the direction you believe they are going. Since you likely like to look at Europe, I would suggest you check out what the future brings...

[Erion929]

Gee, didn't hear/see THAT ONE on the news

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Fremont, CA. Thornton Junior High.

Not doubting you....just wish a news cam would've caught that clusterphuck to add to their biased coverage of "nationwide, organized, galvanized protest".


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[RandyD]

Its funny how most everyone here is so casually dismissive of these kids. They have every right to protest however they want. Most here 'assume' they are being programmed/used/forced to participate in these protests. Sure there is an element of 'skip class, OK I'm in' for those without particularly strong feelings one way or the other. But like many generations of young people before them, this is the only way the adult world takes note of their concerns. Which are no less valid than anyone else's here.

These kids have minds of their own. Many are much better at reasoning than lots of adults I know.

Someone one said 'dissent is fuel in the engine of change'. Like it or not folks, the times they are a changing'.

First, these are kids. Adults are in charge of making decisions, not children. Next, these kids need to finish high school, get a job, pay taxes, get some life experience, and then I will be more inclined to listen to their opinions.

Last night I had a discussion with my daughter who is a freshman in high school, up to this point in her education, in California, she has not received any history lessons on how and why this country was formed. She does not understand our constitution or the Second Amendment. I am not being critical of her, that is just the level of education that she has received, and it is insufficient for her or her peers to begin demanding that our government and society change its policies.

These kids have opinions, which is great, but they need to be measured by the amount of knowledge that they have acquired, which is by all standards insufficient to enter the workforce. Many of these kids, by virtue of their age are not even qualified to take a part time minimum wage job, so how is it that they have the requisite knowledge and maturity to understand and suggest policy changes within our government and society. This country was not built by children protesting, it was built by adults who accepted challenges and made sacrifices.

I don't want to rain on your parade without making some suggestions. These kids did not learn anything from walking out of class to protest, and I question how many of them would participate if the protest was held outside school hours. They would have learned something, if the school administration had located some subject matter experts to hold lectures and debates, and engage in critical thinking discussions on this issue. Isn't that what education is supposed to be about, learning.

Your post suggests that you are one of those who are supportive of every child gets a trophy.

[IVC]

Many of these kids, by virtue of their age are not even qualified to take a part time minimum wage job, so how is it that they have the requisite knowledge and maturity to understand and suggest policy changes within our government and society.

They don't.

The other side is (again) intentionally avoiding exposing that these kids don't know either the current laws, or what they would like the laws to be. A kid who has never seen a gun and knows nothing about magazine capacity is going to suddenly proclaim: "If only those were banned!" Based on what? Their deep understanding of firearms (which they don't have), or their deep understanding of the civic process (which they don't have) has lead them to conclude that there are a few policy choices that will make it all better. These policy choices are by pure coincidence also the policy choices of the anti-gun groups.

And then claiming that these kids are smart or catalysts of the change?!? Laughable. They deserve the scorn they are getting and anyone who is supporting them and cannot account for the above issues deserves the same.

[IVC]

This thread is actually great - it takes away the "plausible deniability" from the supporters of the kids who walked out. It spells out the specific problems with the walkout and leaves it open for the defenders to explain, or be recognized as nothing more than cheerleaders for the local team...

[45guru6918]

Very good points being made here. It seems as if this is exactly what i thought to be true. No one and i mean no one can prove this to be anything other than using children to push politically charged agendas. Like was said in previous post when a school takes the initiative to send emails and letters okaying the protest in the first place they regardless of Politcal stance become complicate in the problem. What makes it even worse is when you have heavily liberal colleges making statements that such behaviour will not be penalized academically if suspension do come from these "protest".