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  • ja308
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2009
    • 12660

    hero shot by cop

    This link was posted on a different thread and it brings up one difficulty of stopping a bad guy.


    The difficulties ? seems getting plugged by a responding cop is a real threat! In this case a cop fired twice one shot hit him in the back.
    In the morning of Feb. 14 — the same day as the Florida school shooting that killed 17 kids and teachers — Garces wrestled a handgun away from a man who had entered the chapel at Faith City Mission and threatened to hold church attendees hostage.

    How could or should a cal gunner who stopped a threat avoid getting plugged by a responding cop?
    Last edited by ja308; 03-06-2018, 8:47 AM.
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    Red-Osier
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    • Oct 2015
    • 12284

    Originally posted by ja308
    This link was posted on a different thread and it brings up one difficulty of stopping a bad guy.
    How could or should a cal gunner who stopped a threat avoid getting plugged by a responding cop?
    Since it was in a Church,
    Make the perp "Holy", Then set the weapon down.

    Also, I see this link is an nbc hit piece on arming teachers
    Last edited by Red-Osier; 03-06-2018, 9:05 AM.
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    • #3
      rcslotcar
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2014
      • 1100

      Should have dropped the gun with out delay.

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      • #4
        Epaphroditus
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        • Sep 2013
        • 4888

        When the cops say drop it you drop it. Simple.

        Definitely a plug the perp moment in the comission of a felony.
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        • #5
          Jay-lee
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2017
          • 546

          Cop was just doing his job. Whoever called 911 should have given a better description of the perp if possible. Also when an officer tells you to do something, just do it. Either way seems like crisis was averted and the man who disarmed the perp doesn't have life threatening injuries. A win in my book.

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          • #6
            boopiejones
            Senior Member
            • May 2014
            • 2044

            Kill the bad guy, call 911 with an extremely detailed description of what happened, what everyone looks like, who’s good and who’s bad, etc. explain to them where the weapons will be, so there are no surprises when the cops show up.

            If you can’t kill the bad guy and need to hold him at gunpoint until the cops arrive, be extremely clear what the good guy and bad guy looks like and follow the cops orders when they arrive.
            my Benitez goes to 11

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            • #7
              Dano3467
              Calguns Addict
              • Mar 2013
              • 7381

              Sad, he's likely not to step up to that plate ever again IMO..

              Could be wrong though

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              • #8
                John Henry
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                • Oct 2015
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                • #9
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                  • Jan 2011
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                  Shame...
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                  • #10
                    Dvrjon
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                    • Nov 2012
                    • 11337

                    Originally posted by ja308
                    How could or should a cal gunner who stopped a threat avoid getting plugged by a responding cop?
                    When the action is over, don't run around the scene with a drawn weapon. LEOs are responding to "man with a gun" or "active shooter". If you have a gun out, they will focus on you, and you become "the guy."

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                    • #11
                      71MUSTY
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 7029

                      You know, even if things like this happened a lot,
                      which they don't because most CCW holders are self aware enough to know what to do when LEO's arrive,

                      it would still be worth it.


                      Which would you rather have, 17 unarmed dead or one bad guy and one CCW dead?
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                      • #12
                        TMB 1
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 7153

                        Originally posted by rcslotcar
                        Should have dropped the gun with out delay.
                        Originally posted by Epaphroditus
                        When the cops say drop it you drop it. Simple.

                        Definitely a plug the perp moment in the comission of a felony.
                        The guy had a point He could have dropped it, then if it went off it could have hit him or someone else and he'd probably been been shot by the cop anyway.
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                        • #13
                          Dvrjon
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                          • Nov 2012
                          • 11337

                          Originally posted by TMB 1
                          The guy had a point He could have dropped it, then if it went off it could have hit him or someone else and he'd probably been been shot by the cop anyway.
                          Remember, in California, that's not a concern because everybody has "Not Unsafe" handguns which have passed a drop test and won't go off.

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                          • #14
                            Dvrjon
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                            • Nov 2012
                            • 11337

                            Originally posted by 71MUSTY
                            Which would you rather have, 17 unarmed dead or one bad guy and one CCW dead?
                            Before we vote, what's the CCW holder's name?......

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                            • #15
                              ja308
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 12660

                              Originally posted by Red-Osier77
                              Since it was in a Church,
                              Make the perp "Holy", Then set the weapon down.

                              Also, I see this link is an nbc hit piece on arming teachers
                              Good call about NBC making it into a hit piece on arming teachers! A brainless concept if ever there was one.

                              Hey NBC a teacher just saved a bunch of kids from being murdered ! Yet you dimwitted fools are worried the teacher will get shot!

                              Jeekers Quilts! Maybe its better in those cases to NOT call police ! Especially if they are headed by an anti gun Hilldog supporting sheriff from Coward county Florida. A bunch of Chickenshix who would no doubt shoot the teacher to prevent any interviews by a legitimate news outlet.
                              NBC news and really dumb students would blame NRA !

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