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  • #16
    Aeneas
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 1127

    Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
    I spent a bit of time in Denali and the coastal areas a few years ago. The inlang grizzly top out at 600lbs, theres basically nothing to eat.

    The coastal ones get the salmon buffet every late summer, and they average 1200 lbs.

    I read that as being twice as big. I was close enough to a pn inkand bear to smell himnand touch him if i wanted, and 6000lbs is pretty damned big.
    Absolutely 600 pounds is a massive creature. I think that pretty much puts it in the monster category.

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    • #17
      Nothingontv
      Member
      • Oct 2016
      • 472

      Originally posted by Skip_Dog
      While hunting bear its a 30-06 rifle with 165g and a .45 on the hip.

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      • #18
        Notpc
        Veteran Member
        • Nov 2016
        • 3711

        I think the third time you try to shoot the bear with a pistol, the bear will figure out you are not there for the hunting! "Old joke, not really suited for posting"
        "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain..."
        Roy Batty

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        • #19
          tundraboomer
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2016
          • 1044

          Alaska resident here. Bear encounters are common, even in "the city". Had a co-worker who was mauled on his property just outside of city limits a couple years ago but survived.

          Unless hunting or heading deep into the bush, most of the people I know (myself included) carry a large caliber handgun and some sort of penetrator round. 10mm handguns with Buffalo Bores are common and easy to come by but I use Underwood Xtreme Penetrator rounds in my .45 ACP, a round which is still not common there for some reason, and somewhat expensive to obtain.

          More often than not a round fired into the air will scare a bear off. But as stated above, a sow with a cub is unpredictable, as is a starving or injured bear. When I hike with my dogs in the larger parks within Anchorage municipal limits, which are essentially small wooded forests surrounded by houses or businesses, bear and moose encounters are a problem but I prefer to not carry the bulky 45 so I carry a 9mm with +P Xtreme Penetrator rounds. Not optimum but it's my EDC and I know I'll at least hit my target with it so it's better than nothing. When I get done with our walk and get back to the truck I swap the mag for one with JHPs or Hornady Critical Defense rounds before I holster it for EDC purposes.

          Grizzlies are not unheard of in Anchorage, but not common. We had one in my neighborhood in East Anchorage for a few weeks last summer that would come around tipping over trash cans. Black bears are common but not anywhere near as dangerous as a grizz. If you fire a gun in Anchorage though, you'll have a lot of explaining to do even if you are defending against a bear. Penetration is good, but a bullet traveling a long distance could do some collateral damage so nobody walks around town with a rifle slung over their shoulder.

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          • #20
            MJB
            CGSSA Associate
            • Sep 2010
            • 5925

            My buddy got charged in the clear lake area...... notice the shot placement
            Last edited by MJB; 06-01-2022, 4:43 PM.
            One life so don't blow it......Always die with your boots on!

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            • #21
              Franklincollector
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 931

              I’m heading to Alaska this year to visit my cousin. On hikes I will carry a Benelli M4 on my back with Dixie Slugs, and a glock 20 with 16 rounds of hard cast. My cousin is going with a 458 socom pistol and a 454 SRH.

              I do NOT want to be snacked in by a bear. I’ve spent hours and hours trying to figure out the best combo.

              What do you think?

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              • #22
                smle-man
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2007
                • 10585

                A friend of mine worked at a mine in Alaska. Pump shotguns loaded with slugs were on hand for the workers on the grounds as bears were everywhere. Probably what I'd choose too.

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                • #23
                  i like boys a lot
                  Junior Member
                  • Nov 2017
                  • 63

                  Good choices, I trust the G20

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                  • #24
                    200Apples
                    -DVC- Mojave Lever Crew
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 7217

                    Unfamiliar with Dixie Slugs, but, in any event, I'd go with Brenneke slugs. The soft Forster/Foster-style slugs widely available locally would not penetrate.

                    Brenneke are what the Norwegian Gov't requires in your 12 gauge, and/or minimum caliber .308 Winchester if rifle, for the polar bear country all over the island of Svalbard.

                    As for a handgun to save your life in a North American bear attack? A nice, big Ruger Bisley Blackhawk chambered in .480 Ruger or .44 Mag or .45 Colt, using .45 Colt +P. Either cartridge should be loaded with minimum 335 grain WLN.

                    Then again, Rich Pasquarello killed a big New Mexico black bear with his GP100stoked with 158 grain jacketed soft points in .357 Magnum...
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                    "Get a proper holster, and go hot. The End." - SplitHoof

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                    • #25
                      Springfield45
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 2426

                      Originally posted by codypaint77
                      Remember a bear can run 35 mph, in 100 yards that's a few seconds. He'll be on you in a jiffy. Unless you get a head shot he's going to get you. A head shot will be ulmost impossible while he's running at you and your shaking all over the place. A body shot will still provide him with adrenaline.

                      For your protection, a slow heavy shot of a rifle without a scope is your best defense. Personally I would not use a 300wm against a large brown bear. That's why I like my 45-70, 540gr.
                      Did you even read the article? It is not about rifles. It is about your last defense with a HANDGUN before you become bear scat. It even says it in the TITLE.

                      I am not saying I know anything. I admit I have never been in a bear attack like 99% of everyone else. I Have carried a .45 in bear country with hollow points. I think that is stupid now. If I do it again I will be carrying a .44 Mag with FMJ's for penetration.

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                      • #26
                        humble servant
                        Member
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 484

                        Originally posted by MJB
                        My buddy got charged in the clear lake area...... notice the shot placement
                        Dam! Single action too. I know it's second nature with practice but with a pissed off bear charging you with bad intentions I'd be afraid to fumble around trying to cock the hammer.
                        Good for him. Nice shot.

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                        • #27
                          DolphinFan
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 2583

                          When I fish in the Sierra Nevada I usually carry a .357 magnum. When Hunting I always carry a .44 magnum.
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                          • #28
                            JusticeQuest
                            Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 142

                            'Grizzly Man' documentary (Idiot eaten by grizzly in Alaska):

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                            • #29
                              200Apples
                              -DVC- Mojave Lever Crew
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 7217

                              MJB

                              My buddy got charged in the clear lake area...... notice the shot placement
                              Good shot!

                              While a picture can be worth a thousand words, please tell us the caliber and load (most importantly, bullet weight and type) your friend was using that day.
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                              "Get a proper holster, and go hot. The End." - SplitHoof

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                              • #30
                                codypaint77
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 695

                                I did

                                Originally posted by Springfield45
                                Did you even read the article? It is not about rifles. It is about your last defense with a HANDGUN before you become bear scat. It even says it in the TITLE.

                                I am not saying I know anything. I admit I have never been in a bear attack like 99% of everyone else. I Have carried a .45 in bear country with hollow points. I think that is stupid now. If I do it again I will be carrying a .44 Mag with FMJ's for penetration.
                                I carry a Ruger .454 Bisley here in North Idaho, while deep in the forest. If I have the choice, I would rather carry my 45-70.

                                If we're talking black bears, a .44 would do. If we're talking large brownies, better have something bigger. I'm not saying it won't do the job but unless it's a fatal shot, that bear will maul you. Scenario: your hunting, you scare a bear, he charges you, not a false charge, he's 75 yards from you, he's at his top speed 35mph, you draw, you're shaking, good luck!

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