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  • xounlistedxox
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 2499

    Company Firearm Policy Interpretation

    It has recently come to my attention that I may need more specific interpretation as it revolves around my companies Firearm Policy

    It reads as follows and was sent in email form to all stores:

    Last week, there was some discussion on firearm policies posted to the company's Facebook page. While these postings may not affect your market directly, we wanted you to know about the postings in case you ever receive inquiries in your store.

    There are many different laws and requirements surrounding firearms so it is challenging to institute a global policy that addresses every scenario, but it is our approach to comply with all federal, state and local laws in our stores. Please use the guidelines below:

    - Employee and customer safety is always our number one concern. We ask that our customers be responsible and respectful of each other and our teams.

    - We permit open carry for our customers in jurisdictions where are allowed, providing that the firearms are carried in compliance with all applicable laws. Stores should follow all local laws regarding both concealed and Unconcealed weapons while ensuring both employees and customers are safe at all times.

    - Firearm policy can be a very sensitive issue for many people. If you believe that the law is not being followed, a customer is acting irresponsibly, or if there is an employee or customer question or concern, please partner with your district manager immediately.

    How are you guys interpreting this policy? Based on what it says it is only regarding customers carrying, or does it pertain to employees carrying? I will leave my thoughts out of it and let the discussion start on it's own.
  • #2
    baggss
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    • Mar 2013
    • 3439

    They don't seem to directly address the issue of employees, but the fact that they don't specifically say you cant and they say they will follow all state and federal laws leads me to believe that you can.

    Now, can an employee OC at work? good question. They say they allow it so.....

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    • #3
      mit31
      Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 450

      I read it the opposite way... that only customers can carry, where permitted.

      The short answer is the text you provided is not definitive. But I would bet that there is already a rule in place in your employee handbook forbidding employees from having firearms on company property, and this text is just clarifying what is not already written, which is customer gun policy.

      Originally posted by xounlistedxox
      It has recently come to my attention that I may need more specific interpretation as it revolves around my companies Firearm Policy

      It reads as follows and was sent in email form to all stores:

      Last week, there was some discussion on firearm policies posted to the company's Facebook page. While these postings may not affect your market directly, we wanted you to know about the postings in case you ever receive inquiries in your store.

      There are many different laws and requirements surrounding firearms so it is challenging to institute a global policy that addresses every scenario, but it is our approach to comply with all federal, state and local laws in our stores. Please use the guidelines below:

      - Employee and customer safety is always our number one concern. We ask that our customers be responsible and respectful of each other and our teams.

      - We permit open carry for our customers in jurisdictions where are allowed, providing that the firearms are carried in compliance with all applicable laws. Stores should follow all local laws regarding both concealed and Unconcealed weapons while ensuring both employees and customers are safe at all times.

      - Firearm policy can be a very sensitive issue for many people. If you believe that the law is not being followed, a customer is acting irresponsibly, or if there is an employee or customer question or concern, please partner with your district manager immediately.

      How are you guys interpreting this policy? Based on what it says it is only regarding customers carrying, or does it pertain to employees carrying? I will leave my thoughts out of it and let the discussion start on it's own.
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      • #4
        DVSmith
        Cantankerous old coot
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Dec 2007
        • 3702

        I interpret the following line as meaning that if you have a question, which you seem to, you should raise it to management for clarification:

        "if there is an employee or customer question or concern, please partner with your district manager immediately"

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        • #5
          Doheny
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Sep 2008
          • 13820

          Originally posted by xounlistedxox
          It has recently come to my attention that I may need more specific interpretation as it revolves around my companies Firearm Policy

          It reads as follows and was sent in email form to all stores:

          Last week, there was some discussion on firearm policies posted to the company's Facebook page. While these postings may not affect your market directly, we wanted you to know about the postings in case you ever receive inquiries in your store.

          There are many different laws and requirements surrounding firearms so it is challenging to institute a global policy that addresses every scenario, but it is our approach to comply with all federal, state and local laws in our stores. Please use the guidelines below:

          - Employee and customer safety is always our number one concern. We ask that our customers be responsible and respectful of each other and our teams.

          - We permit open carry for our customers in jurisdictions where are allowed, providing that the firearms are carried in compliance with all applicable laws. Stores should follow all local laws regarding both concealed and Unconcealed weapons while ensuring both employees and customers are safe at all times.

          - Firearm policy can be a very sensitive issue for many people. If you believe that the law is not being followed, a customer is acting irresponsibly, or if there is an employee or customer question or concern, please partner with your district manager immediately.

          How are you guys interpreting this policy? Based on what it says it is only regarding customers carrying, or does it pertain to employees carrying? I will leave my thoughts out of it and let the discussion start on it's own.
          It seems that you should be asking someone at your company for clarification, not us.
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          • #6
            Citadelgrad87
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            • Mar 2007
            • 16873

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            • #7
              baih777
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Jul 2011
              • 5680

              that looks like store policy for customers.
              employees policy should be in the employee handbook or corporate polices and procedures book.
              Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
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              • #8
                Dan_Eastvale
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Apr 2013
                • 10258

                Originally posted by DVSmith
                I interpret the following line as meaning that if you have a question, which you seem to, you should raise it to management for clarification:

                "if there is an employee or customer question or concern, please partner with your district manager immediately"

                Should ask the source as it says.

                Those afraid to ask are afraid because they think they'll get an answer they don't want.

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                • #9
                  Flying Sig
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 1340

                  If you’re wanting to CC just do it; better to beg forgiveness.... If you’re looking to open carry, Ask your district manager....
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                  • #10
                    mdunbar
                    Junior Member
                    • Jun 2016
                    • 84

                    if it doesn't ban firearms in your employee handbook, I wouldn't worry about it. Just carry concealed be discreet and nobody would even know.

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                    • #11
                      baih777
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 5680

                      Do not carry concealed until you know the company policy.
                      It.could say "May be cause for immediate dismissal"
                      Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
                      I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
                      I'm Back.

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                      • #12
                        P5Ret
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 6372

                        I can't think of a single company I know of that would willingly post company employee policies on facebook for all to read. I'm willing to bet there is a separate policy manual for employee's, then just the policy they would like customer's to abide by (code of conduct). I sure would not interpret that to mean that it is OK for employee's to carry at work. Liability and worker's comp being what it is.

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                        • #13
                          MJB
                          CGSSA Associate
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 5925

                          Sounds like a policy for your customers....all good as long as they are legal and no one feels threatened.
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                          • #14
                            BAJ475
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jul 2014
                            • 5135

                            Not good advise. If there is a company policy that prohibits employees from CC, this would be an invitation to get fired for cause. As other have said, check various sources for guidance and if none is found ask management. Even though you risk getting an answer you might not like it is better than being fired.

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                            • #15
                              CinnamonBear723
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 1874

                              +1. Clarify with someone higher. What I've learned the hard way is instead of trying to play loopholes to your advantage, it's better to bring it to administrations attention and have them address it and clarify. I've been in the principals office enough to know that challenging them is a losing battle sometimes.

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