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  • #16
    mshill
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 4454

    Originally posted by Dan_Eastvale
    I'd say if he's worried then don't buy ppt.

    PPT where I live is simple.. Meet someone, checkout the gun, maybe chat with the seller abit... Can do a bill of sale... Don't have to. Buy it..drive away..
    No registration.. Simple

    The California mindset makes people worry too much.

    Exactly my thoughts as I witnessed my son purchase a handgun in a Walmart parking lot in Utah. Get a copy (picture) of the Bill of Sale if you are worried.
    The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.

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    • #17
      SantaCabinetguy
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Feb 2011
      • 15137

      Count me in the "know by your gut" group, but...

      HotGunz Free Stolen Firearms Database. Check a guns serial number to see if it is stolen or report your missing gun absolutely free!


      Based on self-reported serials and by no means comprehensive, but i've seen it floated from time to time.
      Hauoli Makahiki Hou


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      • #18
        FalconLair
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 3931

        Originally posted by 2shotjoe
        Nv is no longer a free state.
        how so?

        i've been here going on 3 years now and it's amazing the difference between NV and CA
        Originally posted by Barang
        I! hate! you! FalconLair.
        Originally posted by JagerDog
        I hate you FalconLair!
        Originally Posted by JTROKS
        I hate you FalconLair! I double hate you if you get it before Christmas!
        Originally posted by gcvt
        They hate you FalconLair
        Originally posted by Greta
        HOW DARE YOU!! I hate you FalconLair

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        • #19
          nitroxdiver
          Calguns Addict
          • Aug 2009
          • 6979

          Here we shake hands, exchange money for private property, shake hands again, and leave. If your gut tells you he's a ****bag, walk away. Would your buddy run serial numbers on a used lawn mower or dewalt drill off Craigslist?


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          • #20
            2shotjoe
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2011
            • 26549

            Originally posted by FalconLair
            how so?

            i've been here going on 3 years now and it's amazing the difference between NV and CA
            Private part transfers require background checks at ffl

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            Originally posted by Kestryll
            ..you're kind of a sad excuse for an attorney...
            Originally posted by Libertarian777
            ...Don't pick either side....

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            • #21
              dwalker
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2014
              • 2714

              Originally posted by 2shotjoe
              Private part transfers require background checks at ffl

              Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
              My understanding is that law was struck down.
              Fear is the spare change that will keep you broke

              Call him run-like-hell-when-shtf-guy or dial-911-guy but NEVER call an unarmed man "Security".

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              • #22
                mshill
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 4454

                Originally posted by 2shotjoe
                Private part transfers require background checks at ffl
                Originally posted by dwalker
                My understanding is that law was struck down.
                While the Nevada Question 1 passed, requiring background checks on all firearm transfers, the enforcement is blocked:

                https://ballotpedia.org/Nevada_Backg...estion_1_(2016)

                Enforcement blocked

                On December 28, 2016, Attorney General Adam Paul Laxalt (R) said the initiative could not be enforced due to the refusal of the FBI to participate in the expanded background checks. Question 1 was designed to require background checks for firearm transfers between unlicensed individuals, also known as private-party sales, which would take place through the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICBCS). According to a letter from the FBI to Nevada, "the recent passage of the Nevada legislation [Question 1] regarding background checks for private sales cannot dictate how federal resources are applied." Furthermore, Nevada is one of 12 states with a state-run background checks system and does not depend on the FBI to perform existing background checks.[1]

                The FBI suggested that the Nevada Department of Public Safety's Criminal History Repository (CHR) conduct the background checks of private-party sales and transfers. However, Attorney General Laxalt concluded that such a move would violate the initiative's language. The CHR is responsible for other background checks in Nevada.[2] He stated, "The Act is very specific that the only background check it authorizes for a private sale or transfer is directly through the FBI."
                ETA: All this after Bloomberg pissed away $3.5 million and Everytown $14.5 million and wrote an unenforceable law. That's just too bad.
                Last edited by mshill; 01-16-2018, 3:59 PM.
                The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.

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                • #23
                  sfe187
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 1770

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                  Last edited by sfe187; 04-24-2019, 6:59 PM.

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                  • #24
                    sfe187
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 1770

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                    Last edited by sfe187; 04-24-2019, 6:59 PM.

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                    • #25
                      dwalker
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 2714

                      Originally posted by sfe187
                      Just curious . . . checks and balances, dot the i cross the t doesn't appeal to free state residents? You wouldn't look into steps or investigate all possible channels to prevent you buying a stolen gun? Not only money is at stake but just the drama and aftermath of dealing with the law. I do respect your casualness but I don't believe all free state residents are this causal.
                      NO.

                      If I feel bad about the deal, I dont do it, buying or selling. Have bought a lot of guns in the parking lot at Bass Pro or Home depot. Just bought a Beretta 1301 in the parking lot at a gas station, a couple days after I bought a handgun at a parking lot at another gas station.
                      Fear is the spare change that will keep you broke

                      Call him run-like-hell-when-shtf-guy or dial-911-guy but NEVER call an unarmed man "Security".

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                      • #26
                        Grumpyoldretiredcop
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 6437

                        Originally posted by sfe187
                        Just curious . . . checks and balances, dot the i cross the t doesn't appeal to free state residents? You wouldn't look into steps or investigate all possible channels to prevent you buying a stolen gun? Not only money is at stake but just the drama and aftermath of dealing with the law. I do respect your casualness but I don't believe all free state residents are this causal.
                        NO! It's intrusive, unnecessary and leads to what you have to deal with in CA. Back to your hole, Bloomberg troll.
                        I'm retired. That's right, retired. I don't want to hear about the cop who stopped you today or how you didn't think you should get a ticket. That just makes me grumpy!

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                        • #27
                          sfe187
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 1770

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                          Last edited by sfe187; 04-24-2019, 6:59 PM.

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                          • #28
                            Bigtwin
                            Veteran Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 2639

                            I remember doing face to face sales in CA, back when it was legal.
                            NRA MEMBER

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                            • #29
                              FalconLair
                              Veteran Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 3931

                              Originally posted by 2shotjoe
                              Private part transfers require background checks at ffl
                              that did get shot down 2shot - i agree, the law did pass but the AG declared it unenforceable, but yes, they tried

                              there were several 'ordinances' restricting gun carry/transport in some areas of Las Vegas, including North Las Vegas that were struck down in June of 2015, abolished from the books

                              we've actually gained on our gun rights here in the last 2 years 2shot, they even got rid of the Blue Card system, which was a Clark County handgun registration requirement

                              i won't say they're not trying, but we still have good numbers here when it comes to our gun rights, plus, protections within the Nevada State Constitution too
                              Originally posted by Barang
                              I! hate! you! FalconLair.
                              Originally posted by JagerDog
                              I hate you FalconLair!
                              Originally Posted by JTROKS
                              I hate you FalconLair! I double hate you if you get it before Christmas!
                              Originally posted by gcvt
                              They hate you FalconLair
                              Originally posted by Greta
                              HOW DARE YOU!! I hate you FalconLair

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                              • #30
                                AreWeFree
                                Veteran Member
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 4558

                                Originally posted by sfe187
                                Just curious . . . checks and balances, dot the i cross the t doesn't appeal to free state residents? You wouldn't look into steps or investigate all possible channels to prevent you buying a stolen gun? Not only money is at stake but just the drama and aftermath of dealing with the law. I do respect your casualness but I don't believe all free state residents are this causal.
                                How do you check for stolen property at garage sales, flee markets, craigslist, ebay? Do you check the invoices of your local mom & pop stores? Have you researched your birthday/Christmas gifts? Do you record yourself at night to make sure you aren't sleep stealing?

                                Guns are plain normal regular property, like cars, tools, furniture, appliances, electronics, art, baseball cards, clothes, whatever.

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