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[Grumpyoldretiredcop]

ubi jus ibi remedium

There is indeed a right and the remedy is that the nanny state can keep its hands out of the process of transferring private property.

Again, back to your hole!

[fiddletown]

How do you check for stolen property at garage sales, flee markets, craigslist, ebay? ....

Guns are plain normal regular property, like cars, tools, furniture, appliances, electronics, art, baseball cards, clothes, whatever.

It depends on what I'm buying. If I'm buying a couple of folding chairs for $5 each, I don't care all that much.

If I'm buying a gold Rolex or a painting for $15,000, I care very much -- not only about whether it's stolen, but also authenticity. So there’s an old saying: One buys the seller, not the thing.

[sfe187]

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[-hanko]

Here we shake hands, exchange money for private property, shake hands again, and leave. If your gut tells you he's a ****bag, walk away. Would your buddy run serial numbers on a used lawn mower or dewalt drill off Craigslist?

Same here in Idaho. If I get a bad vibe with a phone call, which, incidentally, has never happen, I would not go forward. Last ppt I did was for a Model 41. Seller is a sworn Idaho probation and parole officer. The exchange was done in my car at the P & P facility in Boise.

Private part transfers require background checks at ffl

That depends upon where you live. See above.

Just curious . . . checks and balances, dot the i cross the t doesn't appeal to free state residents? You wouldn't look into steps or investigate all possible channels to prevent you buying a stolen gun? Not only money is at stake but just the drama and aftermath of dealing with the law. I do respect your casualness but I don't believe all free state residents are this causal.

Then it appears you don't know many free state residents.

I remember doing face to face sales in CA, back when it was legal.

Based on what I see and the folks I know in CA, ftf continues to be done without a licensee. Normally it's done between old friends, and I've seen it many times in both northern and central California.

[nitroxdiver]

Same here in Idaho. If I get a bad vibe with a phone call, which, incidentally, has never happen, I would not go forward. Last ppt I did was for a Model 41. Seller is a sworn Idaho probation and parole officer. The exchange was done in my car at the P & P facility in Boise.

[sigstroker]

You are somewhat educated. Good for you. Don't be too grumpy, life's short. Further, never assume everyone in ca or once lived in ca think alike unless you are just narrow-minded no matter what, then this whole message board are full of people you dislike but I wonder why are you on here then? entertainment? no problem. If you screen name is in fact true, I'm fairly sure you are a little older than I'm, with that said, I won't respond by calling you names or use unpleasant language or go rounds with you. Best to you.

Stay in California, please. Sounds like it's the right place for you.

[Nicoman]

People always want to meet at sportsman's warehouse around here. You show up and see 5 other guys just sitting in they're cars waiting, always near the flag pole too.

[Dan_Eastvale]

Just curious . . . checks and balances, dot the i cross the t doesn't appeal to free state residents? You wouldn't look into steps or investigate all possible channels to prevent you buying a stolen gun? Not only money is at stake but just the drama and aftermath of dealing with the law. I do respect your casualness but I don't believe all free state residents are this causal.

Around these parts, buying a gun is like buying a toaster!!!
As It Should Be!

[-hanko]

I’m here in ID too my brother. BTW, I’ve got a spare fde scar 16 for sale if you have any interest. $1,800 and I’ll buy lunch after the parking lot sale is completed.

Think about a deal where I've got the cash, and you buy dinner for me, wife, and my extended family of 23 people.

A straw poll I did just before I posted resulted in the majority selecting either Chandlers or Ruth Chris in Boise.

Let me know.

Around these parts, buying a gun is like buying a toaster!!!
As It Should Be!

And you are correct, and it is like falling off a log. I posted an "I'll take it" for an ex-Utah HP 870 Wingmaster. Called the seller and visited for a minute or two. Zero craziness or "bad vibe" detected. Later in the call, he offered me a second 870 Wingmaster from the same department, and knocked another $50 of each shotgun.

He got a PayPal within 5 minutes, and I got 2 great guns from my LGS 3 days later. $25 transfer charge for both guns, and my CWL instead of NICS. No complaints.