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  • #46
    cwr56
    Member
    • May 2011
    • 192

    Originally posted by 71MUSTY
    Yes Millions.

    All MJ Smokers are prohibited persons by federal law. It is a Felony in California for a prohibited person to possess a firearm or even a bullet.

    In January when pot goes on sale retail California will require retailers to swipe DL or ID "To prove legal age"

    As soon as that happens California will have control of two databases. Prohibited MJ smokers and gun owners.

    Since California just shifted a ton of funding to a division of DOJ tasked with seizing firearms from prohibited persons guess what happens next.

    Hawaii and Ohio among other states have already started doing this.

    See, as I said. Perfect example of your "Multi issue" voting and ignorance of how laws work biting you in the backside.

    Where was your professed intellect that you never considered the true benefits to the State of de-criminalizing MJ.

    If you smoke MJ in California say good by to your guns.
    Why do you assume he smokes? He only indicated he voted to legalize it on the state level. I voted to as well, and I don't smoke.

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    • #47
      71MUSTY
      Calguns Addict
      • Mar 2014
      • 7029

      Originally posted by cwr56
      Why do you assume he smokes? He only indicated he voted to legalize it on the state level. I voted to as well, and I don't smoke.
      I don't assume either of you smoke. I correctly assert both of you voted blindly without considering the impact of the law. Or did you intentionally vote for a law with such negative impact on peoples 2A rights??
      Last edited by 71MUSTY; 12-07-2017, 2:28 PM.
      Only slaves don't need guns

      Originally posted by epilepticninja
      Americans vs. Democrats
      We stand for the Anthem, we kneel for the cross


      We already have the only reasonable Gun Control we need, It's called the Second Amendment and it's the government it controls.


      What doesn't kill me, better run

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      • #48
        OCEquestrian
        Calguns Addict
        • Jun 2017
        • 6906

        Originally posted by tomrkba
        The brunnette will become a gun owner. Mission accomplished: at least one convert.
        Irrelevant if she doesn't step up to politically support the RTKBA...gun owners who vote democrat (in this state) are useless...
        "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater

        Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin

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        • #49
          Geologist
          Member
          • Feb 2017
          • 235

          Ummm..... Trump and Moore both are strong supporters of the 2A. Both have numerous accusations of sexual assault against them.

          I find it interesting that when a Democrat gets accused, they apologize resign. When a Republican gets accused they deny, deflect, lie or try to blame the victims or worse, as in the case of Moore, try to find a defense in the Bible.

          So in your mind, which is worse, violence and sexual assault against women or not supporting the 2A?
          Fast is fine, but accuracy is final!
          You must learn to be slow in a hurry.
          Wyatt Earp

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          • #50
            71MUSTY
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2014
            • 7029

            Originally posted by Geologist
            Ummm..... Trump and Moore both are strong supporters of the 2A. Both have numerous accusations of sexual assault against them.

            I find it interesting that when a Democrat gets accused, they apologize resign. When a Republican gets accused they deny, deflect, lie or try to blame the victims or worse, as in the case of Moore, try to find a defense in the Bible.

            So in your mind, which is worse, violence and sexual assault against women or not supporting the 2A?
            Nice change of subject. Still waiting for an explanation of how you used your intellect to vote for legalizing MJ without understanding it would put people's 2A rights in jeopardy.
            Only slaves don't need guns

            Originally posted by epilepticninja
            Americans vs. Democrats
            We stand for the Anthem, we kneel for the cross


            We already have the only reasonable Gun Control we need, It's called the Second Amendment and it's the government it controls.


            What doesn't kill me, better run

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            • #51
              OCEquestrian
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2017
              • 6906

              Originally posted by Geologist
              Ummm..... Trump and Moore both are strong supporters of the 2A. Both have numerous accusations of sexual assault against them.

              I find it interesting that when a Democrat gets accused, they apologize resign. When a Republican gets accused they deny, deflect, lie or try to blame the victims or worse, as in the case of Moore, try to find a defense in the Bible.

              So in your mind, which is worse, violence and sexual assault against women or not supporting the 2A?
              They resign ONLY if there is no risk the seat with flip republican. The ONLY reason Franken resigned is that there is a democratic governor who will replace him with another democrat in the Senate. That is the ONLY reason. Conyers seat will be empty until a special election and in that district..,having sent him to Congress for 53 years, only a democrat will win AND the house is not even CLOSE to going democratic.


              2010 Dems lost the House
              2014 Dems lost the Senate
              2016 Dems lost the White House
              2017 Dems lost ability to reason
              It's not Russia, it's the democratic party!
              Last edited by OCEquestrian; 12-07-2017, 2:51 PM.
              "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater

              Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin

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              • #52
                CMBrowning
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2014
                • 918

                Originally posted by Geologist
                Weird. I own all my guns, and as has been established by now, I am a liberal. So much for that baseless assumption.
                Screw you. Thanks for voting for the idiots. Save your vote for American idol buddy
                Ephesians 6:10

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                • #53
                  IVC
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 17640

                  Originally posted by Geologist
                  Ummm..... Trump and Moore both are strong supporters of the 2A. Both have numerous accusations of sexual assault against them.
                  ...
                  So in your mind, which is worse, violence and sexual assault against women or not supporting the 2A?
                  I'm a bit confused with the step above represented by ellipsis - how did we get from "accusations" to "committing sexual assault?"
                  sigpicNRA Benefactor Member

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                  • #54
                    foreppin916
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 1307

                    Except in the case of Bill and Hillary Clinton.......
                    Originally posted by Geologist
                    Ummm..... Trump and Moore both are strong supporters of the 2A. Both have numerous accusations of sexual assault against them.

                    I find it interesting that when a Democrat gets accused, they apologize resign. When a Republican gets accused they deny, deflect, lie or try to blame the victims or worse, as in the case of Moore, try to find a defense in the Bible.

                    So in your mind, which is worse, violence and sexual assault against women or not supporting the 2A?
                    "Ya dude just bought my 67th gun today"......sigpic

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                    • #55
                      OCEquestrian
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jun 2017
                      • 6906

                      Originally posted by 71MUSTY
                      Nice change of subject. Still waiting for an explanation of how you used your intellect to vote for legalizing MJ without understanding it would put people's 2A rights in jeopardy.
                      Hey, his support for Prop47 made so many felonies misdemeanors and reduced possession of a stolen handgun worth less than $900 from a felony to a misdemeanor.. and he has the audacity to lecture us about single issue blinders at the polls...
                      Last edited by OCEquestrian; 12-07-2017, 2:55 PM.
                      "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater

                      Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin

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                      • #56
                        CMBrowning
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 918

                        Originally posted by Geologist
                        I voted to legalize marijuana
                        I voted against the gun laws

                        The real issue is that the Federal government still sees marijuana as an illegal substance. Another oddity where the right does not see "States Rights" as a big deal. Bottom line is in my mind if the law in your state allows it, then you are a legal user. I would love to see the Venn diagram showing the intersection of pot smokers and gun owners.
                        States have no right to vote for any law against firearms or ownership of firearms. You can thank the tenth amendment for that. However, misinformed people like yourself allow it and vote for people who make up unjust laws, then try to use the constitution in your argument. Thanks again...
                        Ephesians 6:10

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                        • #57
                          OCEquestrian
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jun 2017
                          • 6906

                          Originally posted by foreppin916
                          Except in the case of Bill and Hillary Clinton.......
                          Hahaha.. everyone forgets Bill Clinton sodomized a 22 year old intern on the desk in the oval office with a cigar...
                          Last edited by OCEquestrian; 12-07-2017, 7:29 PM.
                          "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater

                          Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin

                          NRA life member
                          SAF life member
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                          • #58
                            71MUSTY
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 7029

                            Originally posted by Geologist

                            I find it interesting that when a Democrat gets accused, they apologize resign. When a Republican gets accused they deny, deflect, lie or try to blame the victims or worse, as in the case of Moore, try to find a defense in the Bible.
                            Bill Clinton did every thing you are accusing Moore of doing except he used the dictionary instead of the Bible. And in Bill's case and Frankin's case was actual proof of wrong doing, unlike in Moore's case.

                            And let's not even talk about Anthony Weiner. How quickly you Democrats want to change history.

                            Once again Liberal talking points FAIL the test of scrutiny and facts.

                            Maybe that is what he meant by requiring more intellectual thought. Have to think up good talking points to cover lack of logic.
                            Last edited by 71MUSTY; 12-07-2017, 2:59 PM.
                            Only slaves don't need guns

                            Originally posted by epilepticninja
                            Americans vs. Democrats
                            We stand for the Anthem, we kneel for the cross


                            We already have the only reasonable Gun Control we need, It's called the Second Amendment and it's the government it controls.


                            What doesn't kill me, better run

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                            • #59
                              Geologist
                              Member
                              • Feb 2017
                              • 235

                              Originally posted by 71MUSTY
                              Nice change of subject. Still waiting for an explanation of how you used your intellect to vote for legalizing MJ without understanding it would put people's 2A rights in jeopardy.
                              Marijuana is already a federally banned substance that specifically prohibits the purchase of a firearm. Can you please show me how my vote to legalize marijuana (which I do not smoke) changes or worsens that situation??
                              Fast is fine, but accuracy is final!
                              You must learn to be slow in a hurry.
                              Wyatt Earp

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                              • #60
                                cwr56
                                Member
                                • May 2011
                                • 192

                                Originally posted by 71MUSTY
                                I don't assume either of you smoke. I correctly assert both of you voted blindly without considering the impact of the law. Or did you intentionally vote for a law with such negative impact on peoples 2A rights??

                                I knew full well that federal law prohibits MJ users from owning guns when I voted. It still does. The change to CA law makes no difference to that. It was already prohibited before, and it's no more and no less prohibited still. If you use MJ, you were already a prohibited person regardless of what CA law says.

                                The State DOJ is not likely to use state resources to build a database to enforce that particular federal law. The CA DOJ was not much in the habit of sending gun confiscation agents to everyone convicted MJ possession in state court before it was legal. I doubt you'll see much change now.

                                The problem is not with my vote to change CA law. The problem is with why federal law still classifies it as Schedule 1.

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