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Concealed Carry in home?
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For those that think that "nice" neighborhoods are totally safe: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BA0A16EFQG.DTLComment
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Fairly new here so I'm getting in on this a little late. Having read this thread for the first time I have a couple thoughts.
Firstly: This state badly needs 'shall issue' status.
Secondly: Because I and my all-night counterpart are alone most of the in a small office in an alley that needs access for other workers to come and go at all hours we both keep a handgun under the desk with instant access. My 1911 is backed up with a PPK/S that I keep with me when I go to the head or IWB when I go into the parking lot in the line of my job. Both are fully loaded/safety on.
Am I to beleive that I need to unload either one?
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See post #45 above. Overturf seems to indicate that you may not carry loaded in any place that's reasonably accessible to the public. But if you're really concerned I would consult a lawyer who is knowledgeable about such things.Comment
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Funny!Comment
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Overturf is partially outdated; as a direct result of that case, 12026 was amended. Compare 12026 as quoted in Overturf with 12026 here.
However, the part mentioned above is still, if not 'good', at least 'law'; part of the problem for Overturf was that the area he was carrying was not restricted access, so the 'open front yard' could be a problem. Back yards usually are considered less accessible (but not necessarily). In neither case would the school zone be a problem, since there is the (quoted already in this thread) private property exemption, but the 12031 loaded in public in the front yard might apply.
+1 on the lawyer - they get paid to make judgements, because they're supposed to know things, and when taking a risk one should be properly informed.
Whether this kind of thing should be a risk is entirely a different question.ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page
Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!Comment
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I do, while wearing polka dot shorts and a sequined shirt and mid calf cowboy boots with a leather pattern that matches my holster.
I think it would be a good way to accustom yourself to having a loaded weapon strapped on if you planned to CCW. Some people may wish to have the additional measure of security.Comment
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Interesting discussion. The sheer volume of misinformation is astounding.
Your kid should try to grab your gun once, at most twice. Sometimes, wacking is teaching.If I carried openly my 2.5 year old son would see the gun and forever try to grab it. Concealing it takes away that temptation.*REMOVE THIS PART BEFORE POSTING*Comment
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Hypothetical question:
My wife keeps her horse on private property owned by someone else. Large lot of land with trails going into foothills, no "public access", area known for a large number of coyotes and a few mountain lions. The property in entirely within incorporated city limits. No city or county codes go beyond the state or federal laws regarding carry. The property owner has given permission to carry a firearm in any manner that is legal.
So what is she legally allowed to do? UOC? LOC? Loaded Concealed? Unloaded Concealed? None of the above?-Sean CaseyComment
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My guess is LOC. 12026 has an exception for your/her very own, name on the deed or lease, property (as I read it) for concealed, but 12031 merely says 'public place' for loaded. If the private property is gated, it shouldn't (shouldn't!) be deemed 'public' for 12031.Hypothetical question:
My wife keeps her horse on private property owned by someone else. Large lot of land with trails going into foothills, no "public access", area known for a large number of coyotes and a few mountain lions. The property in entirely within incorporated city limits. No city or county codes go beyond the state or federal laws regarding carry. The property owner has given permission to carry a firearm in any manner that is legal.
So what is she legally allowed to do? UOC? LOC? Loaded Concealed? Unloaded Concealed? None of the above?
A property owner, IMO, ought to be able to permit CCW on his property to anyone not otherwise ineligible to own a gun, but I just don't see that in PC.
There is the side issue of 'who would know?' if the handgun were properly concealed.
Or, you could avoid the whole problem of concealed/loaded handguns and go with a rifle in a saddle scabbard. Under the coyote/mountain lion suggestion, that's what I'd do, I think.ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page
Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!Comment
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You may given me an excuse for a new rifle since my wife isn't too wanting to carry around my Mosin Nagant!
Thanks for the input. So in my case it seems like it is presumed legal since the law doesn't seem to directly prohibit it?-Sean CaseyComment
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