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  • fishen01
    Member
    • Dec 2015
    • 156

    Scope advice

    I have an aero 308 and currently have a 1-6x24 primary arms acss reticle. I'm planning on changing out because at 600 yards it's just not cutting it for me. I've looked into the 6-24x50 and 4-14x44 scopes. Looking for opinions on this. Is 6-24 too much or will 4-14 be good enough at 600. I'm not doing the whole 1000 yard. Thanks for reading.
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    negolien
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 4829

    Never can have TOO much imho lol. Depends what the difference in the optics is.
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    • #3
      russ69
      Calguns Addict
      • Nov 2009
      • 9348

      Originally posted by negolien
      Never can have TOO much imho lol. Depends what the difference in the optics is.
      When shooting from position I like about a 16 power on the top end. On the other hand I have a 36 power on my 25 yard benchrest air rifle. That would be a 1152 power at 800 yards if you wanted the same sight picture I see at 25 yards.
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      • #4
        mike.h
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 1599

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        • #5
          NorCalFocus
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2013
          • 3913

          First I'd strongly suggest a First Focal Plane scope. That will help keep things much simpler for you if you take my advise here...

          I can turn my 6-24 power down to 16. I can not turn my 4-16 up to 24. If you have a FFP scope you'll find yourself setting the magnification to what's best for the shot. Most of the time with a SFP, you'll want to crank the power all the way up to make sure your reticle's measurement is correct. Mirage, FOV, close up targets, all are much harder to work on with full magnification.

          4-16 scopes are good if your doing a lot of large steel plate shooting with changing positions. However if your looking to get smaller groups and be more precise, the extra magnification helps. The down side to a 6-24 is the extra weight. But again if your shooting prone or from a bench mostly, the extra weight doesn't matter. If your wanting to run n gun, save the weight.

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          • #6
            MeatyMac
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2013
            • 1964

            I shoot steel out to 1200-yards and have 2 rifles I use, a heavy Surgeon 591SA and a lighter Rem. 700 PSS, the Rem. 700 sports a US Optics SN3 3.2-17x44.

            NorCalFocus gives you some good advice above, if you’re planning on walking/carrying your rifle save the weight, 16x, 17x, 18x is good enough out to 1200-yards IMO.


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            • #7
              fishen01
              Member
              • Dec 2015
              • 156

              Thanks for the input I appreciate everyones comments they truly help out.

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              • #8
                Divernhunter
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2010
                • 8753

                +1 on Nightforce. I have one on each of my 50BMG rifles and they are great. They are not cheap but you will not get good glass for cheap.
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                • #9
                  sigstroker
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 19615

                  Originally posted by russ69
                  When shooting from position I like about a 16 power on the top end. On the other hand I have a 36 power on my 25 yard benchrest air rifle. That would be a 1152 power at 800 yards if you wanted the same sight picture I see at 25 yards.
                  Any recco for 1152 power?

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                  • #10
                    russ69
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 9348

                    Originally posted by sigstroker
                    Any recco for 1152 power?
                    A drone 25 yards back with a 36 power scope?
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                    • #11
                      MosinVirus
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                      CGN Contributor
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 5282

                      My wife uses VV 6-24.
                      At 24, the 600 yard target is visible enough to see your groups on steel.
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                      • #12
                        Leel
                        Member
                        • Jul 2017
                        • 225

                        got a mark 4 4.5-14x50 on a .308 rem build got it for like 700 bucks on black friday couple years back.

                        shot out to 600 yards all day no problems could probably stretch further as it is pretty clear.

                        This year black friday gonna try n snag a nightforce NSX 5.5-22x50 for a new remington 5-r .308 build.. hoping to get it for close to half off.

                        the time is coming to get a good deal.

                        if you use full magnification all the time and are not going past 600 i wouldn't worry about a FFP. You could get away without it for sure, and with less magnification, the 14x.

                        i'm no pro this is just my experience.. above posts i would agree with the more being better, it just gets expensive. I have heard bad things about clarity on vortex vipers on higher magnifications past 24x..

                        why spend 2000 on a china viper wen you can get a Japanese nightforce? seems a no brainer although I have heard vortex customer service is on par..

                        however almost all companies outsource lenses these days from what i have read, including Leopold. crazy these days.. not sure about Nightforce maybe someone could chime in on that.

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                        • #13
                          SloChicken
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                          • Jul 2012
                          • 4533

                          ^^^

                          China Viper he says ...
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                          • #14
                            Leel
                            Member
                            • Jul 2017
                            • 225

                            after closer inspection :

                            Razor HD scopes are manufactured in Japan
                            Vipers are made in Philippines
                            Diamondbacks are made in Philippines as well
                            Crossfire scopes are produced in China

                            bet u a buck all the lenses come from china.. maybe not

                            not 100% but ima say that nightforce may make their own lenses??

                            after even more inspection:

                            HD razor lenses are made in japan

                            surprisingly
                            Last edited by Leel; 11-13-2017, 6:18 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Leel
                              Member
                              • Jul 2017
                              • 225

                              my bad should have said Philippians viper,


                              haha

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