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  • krb
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2016
    • 1086

    This one WeIRd TRiCk will let you get ammunition delivered to your door after 1-1-18!

    Number seven is insane!

    1. Click link below
    2. Fill out information
    3. Pay $30
    4. Wait for C&R Type 03 FFL to arrive (Can take 60-90 days. Mine came probably around 30)
    5. Forward copy of license to any store you like.
    6. Order ammo
    7. Wait for ammo to arrive.
    8. Put ammo in car.
    9. Put firearm in car in locked container.
    10. Go to range.
    11. Observe the four rules.
    12. Shoot stuff but not anything living.
    13. Giggle.
    14. Repeat steps 5-13 often.

    NO photo and NO fingerprint is necessary for C&R FFL.

    I'm sure the $30 you pay to get the license will be a LOT less than a) the fee stores will charge to accept out of state ammo purchases, b) less than the California registration fees to purchase ammo, and c) your per-round ammo costs will be a lot less order out of state rather than ordering from your LGS. Plus one extra benefit is the money does not go to the state of California!

    Oh, several other posters mentioned you will get a discount from many stores for having an FFL. You will not. I've emailed and called many of those recommended. For any store with decent prices there are NO discounts for FFL. I haven't tried the really overpriced stores but you're better off going through ammoseek. One store has a program like Prime on Amazon where for a fixed fee you get free shipping and ammo essentially at cost (they say).

    !!!You're WELCOME!!!

    Keith

    Last edited by krb; 10-04-2017, 8:47 AM.
  • #2
    Exodus343
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 4714

    You'll also need a COE
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    • #3
      sealocan
      Calguns Addict
      • Mar 2012
      • 9933

      I really do like the idea of almost every Californian gun owner becoming a C&R type 03 FFL ( with a COE )in response to those Sacramento politicians who are trying to restrict (and someday eventually end ) a regular person's access to ammunition.
      Which is obviously and very clearly an infringement of Everyone's second amendment rights.
      That amendment just affirms the inalienable rights you are naturally born with (And the word "inalienable" is defined as "unable to be taken away, sold away from or given away by the possessor.").


      But I don't think everyone's going to do that and it's not because of the $30, it's because of the unfamiliar paperwork form submitted to the government.

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      • #4
        cvigue
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2015
        • 1525

        Alternatively one can:
        1. Move to a free state
        2. Buy ammo as they always have
        3. Not worry about rosters and AW laws
        4. Stop supporting a totalitarian regime with tax revenue

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        • #5
          Full Clip
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Dec 2006
          • 10260

          It's just another form of registration, making it easy for you to end up on a list some day.
          I don't want to do it with my guns and I don't want to do it with ammo.
          Next thing you know, there will be registration for using your 1st A right...

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          • #6
            CSACANNONEER
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Dec 2006
            • 44091

            Or, you can simply take an immediate family member out of state, have him/her purchase ammunition and give it to you. Then, you can legally import it without having to go through a licensed ammunition vendor. Please note, the PC below is specific to importation so, there is no other reason for this exemption other than to allow what I am stating.

            30314. (a) Commencing January 1, 2018, a resident of this state shall not bring or transport into this state any ammunition that he or she purchased or otherwise obtained from outside of this state unless he or she first has that ammunition delivered to a licensed ammunition vendor for delivery to that resident pursuant to the procedures set forth in Section 30312.
            (b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any of the following:
            (1) An ammunition vendor.
            (2) A sworn peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, or sworn federal law enforcement officer, who is authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of the officer’s duties.
            (3) An importer or manufacturer of ammunition or firearms who is licensed to engage in business pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto.
            (4) A person who is on the centralized list of exempted federal firearms licensees maintained by the Department of Justice pursuant to Article 6 (commencing with Section 28450) of Chapter 6 of Division 6.
            (5) A person who is licensed as a collector of firearms pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto, whose licensed premises are within this state, and who has a current certificate of eligibility issued by the Department of Justice pursuant to Section 26710.
            (6) A person who acquired the ammunition from a spouse, registered domestic partner, or immediate family member as defined in Section 16720.
            (c) A violation of this section is an infraction for any first time offense, and either an infraction or a misdemeanor for any subsequent offense.
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            • #7
              krb
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2016
              • 1086

              Originally posted by cvigue
              Alternatively one can:
              1. Move to a free state
              2. Buy ammo as they always have
              3. Not worry about rosters and AW laws
              4. Stop supporting a totalitarian regime with tax revenue
              I totally agree. Unfortunately for many of us work and family are tethering us here.

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              • #8
                krb
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2016
                • 1086

                Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                Or, you can simply take an immediate family member out of state, have him/her purchase ammunition and give it to you. Then, you can legally import it without having to go through a licensed ammunition vendor. Please note, the PC below is specific to importation so, there is no other reason for this exemption other than to allow what I am stating.
                True... But my family members who are here don't normally drive to Vegas and it would be a significant imposition to ask of them. On the other hand, I can do all the steps above from my office with no significant effort.

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                • #9
                  krb
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2016
                  • 1086

                  Originally posted by Full Clip
                  It's just another form of registration, making it easy for you to end up on a list some day.
                  I don't want to do it with my guns and I don't want to do it with ammo.
                  Next thing you know, there will be registration for using your 1st A right...
                  I totally agree. However the most reasonable alternative is to pay A LOT MORE money to the state of California and register with them each time you purchase ammo. Not only are you paying more money, you are also paying it to the despotic regime. Not only are you supporting this regime, I would think there would be red flags when you purchase 1000 rounds of ammo through the CA registry (which is really not a lot - just a few weekends of shooting paper), rather than not being on a registry for each ammo purchase if you have the C&R FFL.

                  My two cents. Seems to me a no brainer. Or stock up on enough ammo to last five years. In which case you will be shooting a lot less than you'd like because a scarcity mentality will come into your decisions. At least it would for me.

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                  • #10
                    CAGLS
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 3613

                    This may be our only alternative other than reloading in which I have not delved into yet. So to confirm we also need a COE?

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                    • #11
                      hunterb
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 3794

                      Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                      Or, you can simply take an immediate family member out of state, have him/her purchase ammunition and give it to you. Then, you can legally import it without having to go through a licensed ammunition vendor. Please note, the PC below is specific to importation so, there is no other reason for this exemption other than to allow what I am stating.
                      GEEEEEEEEENIUS!!!!

                      ME: Hey baby, we're going to Vegas!!
                      GF: Yay Vegas!
                      ME: Hey, we're gonna stop real quick at this Bass Pro
                      GF: Okay. Yay Vegas!
                      ME: I need you to pay for this stuff, I forgot my wallet.
                      GF: Okay....wow that's a lot of stuff...
                      ME: Thanks. Can I have all this stuff?
                      GF: Um, okay...it was for you anyways...
                      ME: Thanks baby. Oh here's my wallet! Sweet!
                      GF: ...yay vegas...
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                      ...The hardest part getting rid of crap is getting started.

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                      • #12
                        foleys
                        Junior Member
                        • Dec 2014
                        • 65

                        Any downsides to filling out the COE and the C&R FFL?

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                        • #13
                          semilin
                          Member
                          • Aug 2017
                          • 297

                          Originally posted by Exodus343
                          You'll also need a COE
                          May I ask what is the COE?
                          God created man;
                          Sam Colt made them equal.

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                          • #14
                            code_blue
                            Veteran Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 3452

                            Originally posted by semilin
                            May I ask what is the COE?

                            Certificate of Eligibility issued by the CA DOJ Bureau of Firearms certifying that you are not a prohibited person. It requires a livescan and an annual renewal. DOJ certified instructors (people who issue FSC's) and other's in the firearms business have to have this.

                            What is a Certificate of Eligibility (COE)? A “Certificate of Eligibility” certifies the Department of Justice (DOJ) has checked its records and determined the recipient is not prohibited from acquiring or possessing firearms at the time the firearms eligibility criminal background check was performed.


                            What is a Certificate of Eligibility (COE)?

                            A “Certificate of Eligibility” certifies the Department of Justice (DOJ) has checked its records and determined the recipient is not prohibited from acquiring or possessing firearms at the time the firearms eligibility criminal background check was performed. A COE is a pre-requisite licensing/permit requirement for all prospective licensed firearms dealers, licensed ammunition vendors, manufacturers, certified instructors, gun show promoters, explosive permit holders, and other firearm related employment activities, including, effective January 1, 2018, any agent or employee of a vendor who handles, sells, or delivers firearms and ammunition. The initial COE application process includes a firearms eligibility criminal background check and issuance of a certificate, which is valid for one year. Thereafter, the COE must be renewed annually. A COE can be revoked, at anytime, if the COE holder becomes prohibited from owning/possessing firearms and ammunition.
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                            • #15
                              Markinsac
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 997

                              Originally posted by semilin
                              May I ask what is the COE?
                              Certificate of Eligibility - https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/a...rms/coeapp.pdf

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