Another GunBroker hillbilly....

[tenpercentfirearms]

I understand you have a right to make money and if you wanna jack up prices or something similar that is your perogative. You can rightfully do so. Smart and morals buyers will not support a business who acts as such. But others will. Which leads me to my point. What kind of customers are you trying to attract with the me first attitude? The wrong kind and not many of them if you ask me.

Are you saying "you" as in me? This debate isn't about me. The hypotheticals we are discussing are purely academic and if you are assuming I am going to hose all of my customers, deny certain races service, and just in general be a bad gun shop, you are missing the point. I am not arguing business should be able to do all of these things because I want to do these things. Quite the opposite. I know what customer service is about. I treat my customers extremely well and serve them in order to earn their money. You won't find the me first attitude at my shop.

Am I running a gun shop to make money? You're damn right. I am not a charity and my time and energy is worth something. However, so is yours and I will not waste it at the gun store.

Anyway, back to the new topic we have created out of this thread. Your pursuit of happiness should not be confused with your happiness. You are stating that if I lower your pay, that hurts your pursuit of happiness. I don't think this is accurate. You must be capable of pursuing happiness, not you are guaranteed happiness. So if I lower your pay, you have every right to go work somewhere else. If I don't pay enough, you can take your expertise and hard work to someone who will value your service to the company.

If I tell you women/blacks/gays don't deserve to make as much money as the white man, then you not only should go find another job, but you should let everyone you know what I have said, encourage people not to support a racist bigot, and hopefully my business will fail. Again, I believe that we should place the power of change in the people's hands, not the governments. What right do we have to tell a man what he must think or feel? What right do we have to punish someone for their free speech that does not harm someone else?

Oh you are upset that there are still racists out there? Hell, I am more upset we have spend and tax Democrats out there. I can ignore racists and they are slowly fading away. These Democrats rewarding failing businesses and people who can't manage their finances, they seem to be a larger problem. Why? We want the government to fix everything.

[jlh95811]

Are you saying "you" as in me? This debate isn't about me. The hypotheticals we are discussing are purely academic and if you are assuming I am going to hose all of my customers, deny certain races service, and just in general be a bad gun shop, you are missing the point. I am not arguing business should be able to do all of these things because I want to do these things. Quite the opposite. I know what customer service is about. I treat my customers extremely well and serve them in order to earn their money. You won't find the me first attitude at my shop.

No, not you as in you personally. You as in the business in question but that does include you as a business man. I'm not saying anyone in particular does anything. But the fact that you said a whole mouthful without even being sure does not bode well for your perceived attitude. So defensive.

Anyway, back to the new topic we have created out of this thread. Your pursuit of happiness should not be confused with your happiness. You are stating that if I lower your pay, that hurts your pursuit of happiness. I don't think this is accurate. You must be capable of pursuing happiness, not you are guaranteed happiness. So if I lower your pay, you have every right to go work somewhere else. If I don't pay enough, you can take your expertise and hard work to someone who will value your service to the company.

I am binded by logic to concur with this statement. It may make me unhappy but does not revoke my right to pursue happiness.

If I tell you women/blacks/gays don't deserve to make as much money as the white man, then you not only should go find another job, but you should let everyone you know what I have said, encourage people not to support a racist bigot, and hopefully my business will fail. Again, I believe that we should place the power of change in the people's hands, not the governments. What right do we have to tell a man what he must think or feel? What right do we have to punish someone for their free speech that does not harm someone else?

If I tell you women/blacks/gays don't deserve to make as much money as the white man, then you not only should go find another job, but you should let everyone you know what I have said, encourage people not to support a racist bigot, and hopefully my business will fail. Again, I believe that we should place the power of change in the people's hands, not the governments. What right do we have to tell a man what he must think or feel? What right do we have to punish someone for their free speech that does not harm someone else?

I'd knock that guy out in a heartbeat. And that is coming from a white guy raised in a white neighborhood by white parents. It is unacceptable in this day and age let alone ANY day and age to hate someone for the things they cannot change. My honest opinion: People like that should but put to death as they are a drain on the moral advancement of society. Am I radical? Maybe; But it'll sure get the job done.

Government is supposed to fix certain things for us. That is why we have them. They are over stepping their boundries and have been doing so so years. I expect we will eventually turn on our government though not in the violent way some feel. They need to be shown that they work for us.

[Dutch]

Here is one that I fond on gunbroker today -

"ATTENTION: IF YOU RESIDE IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, DO NOT BID ON THIS AUCTION. YOUR BID WILL NOT BE HONORED.

EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, ADAMS GUN EMPORIUM, LLC HAS CEASED DELIVERY OF ALL FIREARMS, FIREARMS PARTS AND AMMUNITION TO ALL POLICE DEPARTMENTS, POLICE OFFICERS AND RESIDENTS OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE RESIDENTS OF, WHAT HAS BECOME THE PEOPLES REPUBLIK of KALIFORNIA, BECOME ANGRY ENOUGH, AND GROW ENOUGH COURAGE, TO REMOVE FROM OFFICE THE SOCIALIST POLITICIANS WHO PASSED SECTIONS 12072(F)(1) & 12083(C)(1) OF THE CALIFORNIA PENAL CODE INTO LAW AND THE GOVERNATOR WHO ALLOWED IT TO BECOME LAW, I SHALL NOT HONOR ANY FURTHER BIDS FROM THE RESIDENTS OF THE PEOPLES REPUBLIK of KALIFORNIA. THIS SHALL ALSO APPLY TO CURIO & RELICS (03) FIREARMS AND LICENSEES AND INCLUDE ANTIQUE FIREARMS AS WELL. NO EXCEPTIONS WILL BE MADE.

I BELIEVE THAT THESE LAWS VIOLATE THE COMMERCE AND EQUAL PROTECTION CLAUSES OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, AND ARE CLEARLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL. I REFUSE TO BE KALIFORNIKATED BY YOUR SOCIALIST POLITICAL HACKS. DON'T LIKE MY ATTITUDE, THEN GET BUSY RAISIN' H__L WITH THE SOCIALIST BENT POLITICAL TRAITORS WHO HAVE VIOLATED THEIR OATH OF OFFICE TO PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THESE UNITED STATES, AND WHO VOTED FOR THIS UNCONSTITUTIONAL SET OF LAWS. INSIST, AS IS YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES, AND IN THE STRONGEST TERMS, THAT THEY REPEAL THESE ABOMINABLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL STATUTES BEFORE IT BECOMES NECESSARY FOR THE GOOD CITIZENS OF CALIFORNIA TO DO SO BY FORCE OF ARMS. TO DO LESS, CONSTITUTES MORAL COWARDICE IN THE FACE OF SOCIALIST OPPRESSION."

http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=124361757

[proudamerican831]

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[xzw151]

If he feels so strongly about it then he should come over here to help fight the good fight.

[tankerman]