slowing the antigun immigrant tide

[laurelpark]

Jeez, I shouldn't have read this thread. That is all - nothing to see here, move along....

[TheZouave]

Maybe it has something to do with you using racist slang to describe them. Why would they want to assimilate into a racist and ignorant society?
When someone attacks your 2nd amendment rights, are you disposed to think "Hey, they hate my guns, I should totally be like them!"
No, you gravitate towards other gun owners who don't treat you like crap. The attitudes directed towards immigrants is directly related to how well they assimilate.
In a few generations, they assimilate, same as the irish, Chinese, etc. If you think they just readily assimilated, is point out how many cities have a Chinatown, or Little Italy, or Germantown.
Assimilation takes time, but being a jerk makes it take longer.

BS! Look at the Chinese who came here with the railroads or blacks coming from Africa or even the Irish.....How come they can assimilate but beans can't?

[bigbearbear]

IMO, I think we need to do the opposite. 2A rights should be documented and discussed in multiple languages so that we'll gain support from a broader spectrum of US population. We need to make them understand that this is now a privilege, but a RIGHT to them as US citizens and should not be taken away.

[ja308]

What if the business owner wants to cater to Spanish-speaking customers AND he is a Trump supporter. The two are not mutually exclusive. A smart businessman would want to draw in as many customers as possible, including Spanish-speaking ones. And a smart businessman is likely to support Trump too.

If you threaten to contribute to Trump every time you hear "1 for English 2 for Spanish" he is likely to say "That's great! I hope you call several times a day! MAGA! And muchas gracias!!"

With brilliant strategic thinking like that no wonder your fellow Republicans are where they are in California.

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If a business owner wants to cater with those who speak other languages that is fine.
Why not have a message like,"we will be with you shortly,if you prefer another language please press 1?

For all you intolerant folks calling me names, I suggest each of you read the US constitution and bill of rights and do take note. Not 1 word of it was written in a foreign language.

I am willing to bet each of you intolerant people who are resorting to name calling and the promoting the division of America by language cannot outline even 3 articles contained in the bill of rights! (W/O a search.

If this were to go viral,who knows how many current Spanish speaking individuals would learn English and begin to appreciate its greatness !

Big Bear the problem is every foreign language publican or media outlet are part of destroying America ! By promoting their native language the swamp wins
For proof take La Opinon owned by the democrat Times of Los Angeles.

[laurelpark]

Well, not to stir the pot too much, but when the constitution was written up, it was in a foreign language to the indigenous population....

[userformerlyknownasfitty]

It's pretty disingenuous to say that they haven't assimilated. Of course there are some that haven't, but a majority of them do. Also it depends on who definition of assimilation we are using here. People can assimilate whilst maintaining their native cultural identity.

[blubullett]

It's sorta funny, the Mexican's are so proud of "their" language and don't believe they should be forced to learn English, but they forget that the only reason they speak Spanish is because the Spanish made it law in Mexico that they learn Spanish.

[Rifle ronin]

JA308, please say you are trolling because I really don't want to believe there are people that racist and ignorant.

[bbodybill]

English... Comprende !!

+1000

+10,000

[TheZouave]

LoL. I like how by calling the words you used racist, I just became the intolerant one. I'm not the one who is using a-historical generalities and anti-immigrant fervor to try to push an agenda. I'm just saying 'Hey, calling someone a bean/beaner is a racist form of address'.

I'm not promoting the division of America, I'm promoting inclusiveness, respect and compassion. You're the one who wants to make it hard for anyone that isn't a native English speaker to even function in this country. Guess what, its hard to learn languages as you get older. Teach the kids, be welcoming and a good person, and they'll be proud to be an American. On the other hand, if you demonize them and blame them for all your problems, then they're probably not going to want to be friends with you, and are going to take a pretty dim view of Americans. Come on, you can be better than this.

As for my knowledge of the Constitution... You would lose that bet. Sorry, I'm a historian, and I happen to focus on American history from the establishment of the colonies to the Civil War. I can outline all of the 17 Articles originally approved by the House, as well as the 12 approved by the Senate, the final wording of the 12 approved by Congress, and discuss their ratification.

As for not one word written in a foreign language, that's quite irrelevant. It was also written with a quill and inkwell. Does that imply that computers are inferior, because the Constitution was written without one? The authors of the Constitution were well acquainted with the fact that there were a multitude of languages you'd find in America at that time. Instead of bemoaning that fact, they endeavored to educate themselves so they could speak fluently in multiple languages. A rigid adherence to a single language would have been looked upon rather poorly by those men, nearly all of whom were multi-lingual.

It is disappointing that so many people have forgotten how much our founders valued education and learning - they sought it out and respected those whose minds were broadened by experiences in foreign countries, and different ideas, and new theories. Washington's distillery was run by an immigrant. Washington didn't care that he wasn't born in America, he welcomed a man from another country, employed him, and thought nothing of it. He believed in treating people with civility, regardless of the circumstance of their birth. You might consider expanding your knowledge beyond the 5th/4th Article (2nd Amendment), and look at the example of some of founders of this country. There is much we can learn from them.

For all you intolerant folks calling me names, I suggest each of you read the US constitution and bill of rights and do take note. Not 1 word of it was written in a foreign language.

I am willing to bet each of you intolerant people who are resorting to name calling and the promoting the division of America by language cannot outline even 3 articles contained in the bill of rights! (W/O a search.

[TheZouave]

LoL. I like how by calling the words you used racist, I just became the intolerant one. I'm not the one who is using a-historical generalities and anti-immigrant fervor to try to push an agenda. I'm just saying 'Hey, calling someone a bean/beaner is a racist form of address'.

I'm not promoting the division of America, I'm promoting inclusiveness, respect and compassion. You're the one who wants to make it hard for anyone that isn't a native English speaker to even function in this country. Guess what, its hard to learn languages as you get older. Teach the kids, be welcoming and a good person, and they'll be proud to be an American. On the other hand, if you demonize them and blame them for all your problems, then they're probably not going to want to be friends with you, and are going to take a pretty dim view of Americans. Come on, you can be better than this.

As for my knowledge of the Constitution... You would lose that bet. Sorry, I'm a historian, and I happen to focus on American history from the establishment of the colonies to the Civil War. I can outline all of the 17 Articles originally approved by the House, as well as the 12 approved by the Senate, the final wording of the 12 approved by Congress, and discuss their ratification.

As for not one word written in a foreign language, that's quite irrelevant. It was also written with a quill and inkwell. Does that imply that computers are inferior, because the Constitution was written without one? The authors of the Constitution were well acquainted with the fact that there were a multitude of languages you'd find in America at that time. Instead of bemoaning that fact, they endeavored to educate themselves so they could speak fluently in multiple languages. A rigid adherence to a single language would have been looked upon rather poorly by those men, nearly all of whom were multi-lingual.

It is disappointing that so many people have forgotten how much our founders valued education and learning - they sought it out and respected those whose minds were broadened by experiences in foreign countries, and different ideas, and new theories. Washington's distillery was run by an immigrant. Washington didn't care that he wasn't born in America, he welcomed a man from another country, employed him, and thought nothing of it. He believed in treating people with civility, regardless of the circumstance of their birth. You might consider expanding your knowledge beyond the 5th/4th Article (2nd Amendment), and look at the example of some of founders of this country. There is much we can learn from them.

For all you intolerant folks calling me names, I suggest each of you read the US constitution and bill of rights and do take note. Not 1 word of it was written in a foreign language.

I am willing to bet each of you intolerant people who are resorting to name calling and the promoting the division of America by language cannot outline even 3 articles contained in the bill of rights! (W/O a search.

[Abu Riyah]

Hell no.
Learn the Anglo-Saxon tongue or get bent.
Appeasing the hyphenated American is national suicide.

[JackEllis]

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[ja308]

JA308, please say you are trolling because I really don't want to believe there are people that racist and ignorant.

It's not fair or accurate to refer to me as a racist for wanting to include Spanish speaking people in the American Dream and experience,by eliminating the foolish and destructive practice of elevating and catering to a foreign power structure.

What is racist and everyone who hears spokespeople from La Raza,Mecha.Maldef,etc,etc,etc, knows these hate filled groups are relying on lies and ignorance to preach their hate and divide Americans by language and race!

While I frequently admit to often times being ignorant. The subject of tactics to destroy freedom is not one area where I am ignorant.

It's no accident La Raza is on the NRA list of anti gun groups!

[shakyshoot]

Hey OP, how bout we limit redneck racist ramblings to the OT section, where I won't see them, since I've long since given up on going there. Trump has plenty of money, so why not just go ahead and donate your spare change to the KKK? They're probably more in line with your agenda.