10/22 SBR arrest

[bigb0886]

Is anyone actually following the case to see if the charge stuck? I feel like she should have to gone to court by now and the DA should have filed the charges they want.

[tileguy]

tweaker or not that is a BS move on the officers part. that is a legal non modified barreled action that many of us could have.

[jre]

So what about a Henry ar-7?

[ar15barrels]

The question I have is, can the 10 round rotary mag even stay in place when the stock is removed?

Yes.
The magazine latch is completely contained within the trigger pack.
All you need is some tape to keep all the pins in place so that do not fall out and the trigger pack will stay attached to the receiver.

[diverwcw]

tweaker or not that is a BS move on the officers part. that is a legal non modified barreled action that many of us could have.

Yup. Today the tweaker is charged, tomorrow it will be one of us who is charged.

[ar15barrels]

Yeah without the bottom metal it can't lock in place.

10-22's do not have any "bottom metal".
The triggergaurd is part of the trigger pack and attaches directly to the receiver ernand just drops through the stock when the action is placed in the stock.

[ar15barrels]

This is exactly what I thought, since my father bought a .308 Howa as a barreled action through an FFL.

There is a difference between a barred action which has never had a stock installed (title 1 firearm) and a rifle.
A rifle has had a stock installed that makes it capable of being fired from the shoulder.
Once a rifle, always a rifle.
You can not "un rifle" a rifle.
Hence, any gun "made from a rifle" which does not meet the minimum length requirements CAN be a "short barrelled rifle" while a title 1 firearm which has never been a rifle, can not be a short barrelled rifle.
This is all at th federal level.
State laws have different wording but often refer to the federal definitions too.

[paratroop]

I have a yugo ak. The stock can be removed, and i could still fire it.

In california, i would have a sbr.

Everywhere else i would have a gun with no stock. Kind of like shooting an underfolder with the stock folded.

I have no problem taking the stock off to refinish it or something, but i would expect to have a problem if i took the stock off and went to the range.

[LowThudd]

^^ Yes, intentional use as an SBR is I think the issue here. Intent is two thirds of the law.

Disassembling a firearm for servicing is allowed, and even spelled out in the new AW laws.

Taking the stock off and using it as a firearm like that is a separate issue.

And as stated, the charge will probably be plea bargained down to a felony open carry, in conjunction with illegal drugs.

[Mayor McRifle]

Intent is two thirds of the law.

Citation?

[LowThudd]

Citation?

I was referring to the common phrase "Possession is nine tenths of the law" which is also sometimes stated as "Intent is 9/10s of the law".

Whatever. I didn't paraphrase correctly, but you get my meaning? Intent is ALWAYS a major concern in criminal proceedings. Without intent, there really isn't much of a case here. If they are not claiming she intentionally used the firearm in it's stockless/SBR configuration because it is more concealable, there isn't much of a case.

[smittty]

That's no t a SBR but I can see LE using the law the letter to add a charge to a BD.

Overall the firearm is in poor condition, clearly the owner is negligent in his care of it. That's a crime isn't it!!

[PMACA_MFG]

There is a difference between a barred action which has never had a stock installed (title 1 firearm) and a rifle.
A rifle has had a stock installed that makes it capable of being fired from the shoulder.
Once a rifle, always a rifle.
You can not "un rifle" a rifle.
Hence, any gun "made from a rifle" which does not meet the minimum length requirements CAN be a "short barrelled rifle" while a title 1 firearm which has never been a rifle, can not be a short barrelled rifle.
This is all at th federal level.
State laws have different wording but often refer to the federal definitions too.

A pistol can become a rifle, and under federal rules, become a pistol again.
A rifle cannot be converted into a pistol.
I would argue that a barreled action can become a rifle, and turned back into a barreled action again.

Not sure what the Fresno PD are trying to do here.

[LowThudd]

A pistol can become a rifle, and under federal rules, become a pistol again.
A rifle cannot be converted into a pistol.
I would argue that a barreled action can become a rifle, and turned back into a barreled action again.

Not sure what the Fresno PD are trying to do here.

But CA specifically states that once a rifle, a pistol cannot be made into a pistol again. An aside from fed law. I mean, this is CA isn't it? Besides, we have a handgun roster as well. So making an "Unsafe handgun" from a barreled action would in it's self be a crime, technically. So would manufacture of an assault weapon(a semi pistol with detachable mag outside of the grip).

[SkyHawk]

It will be funny if it turns out this was a Charger receiver. Because if it was, that is a legal configuration per fed law. In CA you'd still have 'mag outside the grip' to worry about, er - except there is no grip. It could be argued the mag is the grip.

Of course we know a tweaker isn't that smart - but if we can't see the left side we don't know if it says charger.

One of these is a pistol: