Heard a new "featureless" regulation today

[rustyx]

I DO NOT wish to spread fud. This is just an interaction I had this morning.


Went to a local indoor shooting range today. I already hate going to indoor or regulated ranges in general, but I needed to sight a rifle in so I thought I'd go since we're still under fire restrictions.

Anyway, as I'm leaving the owner of the range/gun shop starts talking to me about featureless and how my grip isn't a legal option per the opinion of DOJ (it's a magpul grip made into a fin grip which the fin goes up about an inch above the highest exposed portion of the trigger).

He then goes on to say that if you bought a complete rifle before Jan 1, 2017 it has to be registered as an Asalt Weapun because it came with a BB installed and all the features. You were not "allowed" to convert it to featureless because it was brought into ca with a BB and somewhere on the DROS paperwork it says it is compliant with CA and the serial number or sku number or something correlates with it being a BB rifle?

Said the DOJ has told him this over the phone and in person. I've NEVER heard of this before. Has anyone heard of this? I've never purchased a complete rifle, only lowers and assembled them.

[Milsurps]

The range/gun shop Fud continues.

[Scratch705]

nope, maybe he is confusing regs for bringing in guns for sale vs personally owned guns.

as for the grip fin, DOJ would never make a ruling concerning legality of the grip fins. they like to keep it vague so local DA's can make their own case to arrest/charge.

[kcheung2]

You should ask that owner if his job involves enforcing AW laws.

[Oceanbob]

Ignore these people.

FUD.



Bob

[BennyAdeline]

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[Red-Osier]

You ever told someone their an Idiot.

[rustyx]

Also btw. My grip is a magpul with a slot milled down the back of it with the fin pressed through and epoxied inside the grip and out. More permanent than a wrap for sure.

[bradf814]

somewhere on the DROS paperwork it says it is compliant with CA and the serial number or sku number or something correlates with it being a BB rifle?

FUD

[smittty]

It's see-thru, I must be illegal!

[rustyx]

It's see-thru, I must be illegal!

Well it's a ghost grip. Patent pending.

[laurelpark]

Tell him that you'll be sure to mention to all of your hundreds (maybe thousands) of gun-club friends with featureless rifles that the owner of that range might give them a hard time if they go there, so they should find a different range to spend their money. That will make him think twice about spouting off FUD.

[omega]

Range owner will supply your name and info to LE

You should ask that owner if his job involves enforcing AW laws.

he would probably say "yes"

I wonder what type of info pay ranges keep on customers? do they also record serial numbers? make , model, etc or supply your info to local LE?

[rustyx]

he would probably say "yes"



I wonder what type of info pay ranges keep on customers? do they also record serial numbers? make , model, etc or supply your info to local LE?

This one closest to me only takes down name and date. If someone wanted anything more than that I'd not go.

[MaHoTex]

Sounds like the owner has been reading posts by a certain Calguns member.