Night Vision Shoot: Pre-Planning

[CouchOperator]

Id like to put together an NVG shoot/meet sometime within the next couple months. Central CA. IR strobes would be mandatory. How many of you would be interested? You would need to bring your own NVG and we would preferrably get to know everybody and their experience with weapons handling over dinner before going into the dark, however i think if done properly this could be great fun. At this point, i'm looking for input from fellow NVG shooters with what they would like to see and their concerns. Any and all comments are greatly appreciated.

[Kwikvette]

In.

I'm sure there are others with NVG gear but maybe they haven't fielded said gear.

This could be a good opportunity to meet some fellow calgunners and learn something all at once.

With the .30-40 cents per round I'll be saving my reloading my own ammunition, I should have my brain bucket sooner than later

[L84CABO]

Might I suggest that you start this around 3 p.m. and do a couple hours in daylight, then break for dinner Noms, then do the night shoot? This would give everyone a chance to meet and shoot with each other, as well as the ability to assess gun handling and general safety elements prior to nightfall.

Just an idea.

[CouchOperator]

Might I suggest that you start this around 3 p.m. and do a couple hours in daylight, then break for dinner Noms, then do the night shoot? This would give everyone a chance to meet and shoot with each other, as well as the ability to assess gun handling and general safety elements prior to nightfall.

Just an idea.

Good idea, and was a thought. We'd just have to make 2 long drives but would be worth it for safeties sake. Maybe we could bring a BBQ out there if someone had a truck. Id be down to bring a bunch of meat

[xxINKxx]

In.

I'm sure there are others with NVG gear but maybe they haven't fielded said gear.

This could be a good opportunity to meet some fellow calgunners and learn something all at once.

With the .30-40 cents per round I'll be saving my reloading my own ammunition, I should have my brain bucket sooner than later

These people offer really good prices. Legit quality and testing done by these guys.

https://www.hardheadveterans.com

I have everything else just not the NVG

[bug_eyedmonster]

Might I suggest that you start this around 3 p.m. and do a couple hours in daylight, then break for dinner Noms, then do the night shoot? This would give everyone a chance to meet and shoot with each other, as well as the ability to assess gun handling and general safety elements prior to nightfall.

Just an idea.

I think half the fun would be "feeling" eachother out in the dark.

I would totally be interested depending on the day and location, but I currently don't have my NVG set up. Is this open to those who are still researching and saving? I think I could contribute in other ways.

Jerry

[1911su16b870]

I would suggest a very low instructor to student ratio plus extreme vigilance when moving to and from the target area to 100% make sure everyone is accounted for.

[OlderThanDirt]

You could all hold hands when moving to/from the target area. Or you could bring some decent portable lights to clearly indicate a ceasefire is in effect.

[Kwikvette]

I think half the fun would be "feeling" eachother out in the dark.

Who's in my mouth?

[Rhyyke]

Depending on the date I might drive up for this. Need to get my gear in order though.

[OCEquestrian]

I hope you have insurance coverage... while playing with "cool stuff" is always fun, the loss of depth perspective for some with older gear and what i am willing to bet is a general unfamiliarity with the gear will make for a VERY dangerous combination in the dark.

Anything that goes wrong will be on YOU regardless of signed waivers. The military treats this kind of live fire training with NV as some of the most hazardous small arms training it does and takes very special precautions and control measures. Particularly with those being exposed to NV for the first time. Without proper insurance, you are putting your family, home and livelihood at risk and while everyone invited my be a good friend, their extended family, dependents and the attorneys they hire will not be.

I also shocked you would consider the event without a mandatory daylight live fire NIP (knucklehead identification period) session. Over dinner, while probably preferred by many armchair gunslingers, is totally unsatisfactory.

Cheers!

[CouchOperator]

I hope you have insurance coverage... while playing with "cool stuff" is always fun, the loss of depth perspective for some with older gear and what i am willing to bet is a general unfamiliarity with the gear will make for a VERY dangerous combination in the dark.

Anything that goes wrong will be on YOU regardless of signed waivers. The military treats this kind of live fire training with NV as some of the most hazardous small arms training it does and takes very special precautions and control measures. Particularly with those being exposed to NV for the first time. Without proper insurance, you are putting your family, home and livelihood at risk and while everyone invited my be a good friend, their extended family, dependents and the attorneys they hire will not be.

I also shocked you would consider the event without a mandatory daylight live fire NIP (knucklehead identification period) session. Over dinner, while probably preferred by many armchair gunslingers, is totally unsatisfactory.

Cheers!

Who the hell ever said this was training? All your concerns are obviously in my mind, im just trying to gather general interest, but do you have any real input regarding your own experience with nvg or are you here solely to ****post on stuff outside of your own experience?

[OCEquestrian]

Who the hell ever said this was training?

I never assumed it was training, but if people are using their NV gear for the first time live fire than it becomes de facto training.

You are putting together a "little shoot" under "potentially" hazardous conditions depending on

1) The amount of range control you maintain
2) The amount of experience or lack there of your participants have with their NV gear in live fire situations.

My NV experience in the military was limited. I am simply pointing out some concerns. The fact that you did not initially require live fire handling drills in daylight to asses your participants abilities, and it was only a "thought" indicated a potential need for some commentary.

It sounds like it could be a good event... but just saying...

[CouchOperator]

I understand there is risk, im not retarded. You're welcome to join

[Kwikvette]

I never assumed it was training, but if people are using their NV gear for the first time live fire than it becomes de facto training.

You are putting together a "little shoot" under "potentially" hazardous conditions depending on

1) The amount of range control you maintain
2) The amount of experience or lack there of your participants have with their NV gear in live fire situations.

My NV experience in the military was limited. I am simply pointing out some concerns. The fact that you did not initially require live fire handling drills in daylight to asses your participants abilities, and it was only a "thought" indicated a potential need for some commentary.

It sounds like it could be a good event... but just saying...

I'll chime in since I did post that I would be genuinely interested in attending said-event.

Since the thread is to simply gather genuine interest, details can later be hashed out in another thread (or simply updated here).

The fact that people are chiming in and offering advice helps, but if you go back to the beginning of this thread, this is still just an idea with nothing set in stone.

We all have our run ins with idiots at the range, flagging, etc. but I've never experienced that with members on here that I've shot with personally. This doesn't mean that there's room for complacency, but I would bet that most on here have better range etiquette (and safety in mind) than those outside of this forum.