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  • fastpowerstroker
    Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 420

    Shotgun tranfer?

    O.k. My father in law want's to give me a shotgun that belonged to his father. I want to do everything legal. I Know rifles do not require registration but I dont want any problems later on. Any recommendations on what to do. I dont mind paying a few fee's, but I do, if not nessecary. Im just confused on long gun laws.
  • #2
    12GAUGE
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 594

    How old is it?

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    • #3
      fastpowerstroker
      Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 420

      Originally posted by 12GAUGE
      How old is it?
      He's not sure. Safe to say pre 1975.

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      • #4
        12GAUGE
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 594

        If its older then 50 years old you can just take it. Or fill out a interfamly transfer form. Not sure exactly which form it is. Im sure somebody will chime in on it.

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        • #5
          Vin496
          Calguns Addict
          • Mar 2008
          • 8804

          Well where is your Father in Law?

          Either way here are your 2 choices,

          He lives out Of State
          He ships the rifle your to your local FFL and you go DROS it and pay FFL fees and wait your 10 days.

          As long as it's not some AW Listed Shotgun, then there is no big deal to this.

          Or He lives in State

          He sends it/hands it to your Wife. That's it. Remember that if he lives, say in NorCal and you In SoCal, he can mail it to you via USPS(this applies to long guns only)

          Then under California Law if you're married it becomes yours. If you want you can then send in the DoJ Intra Familial form and $19, but that is not required for a long gun.

          Here it is anyways.
          Last edited by Vin496; 03-03-2009, 8:40 PM.
          I think it can be confirmed that an alien xenomorph is absolutely no match for good ole' Alabama black snake!

          and

          If you're in a survival movie and the hot blond twists her ankle and can't walk, you damn well figure a way to carry her. If it's a dude, you shake his hand and say "best of luck".

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          • #6
            fastpowerstroker
            Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 420

            Originally posted by Vin496
            Well where is your father in Law?

            Either way here are your 2 choices,

            You both go to a local FFL and do a PPT and wait your 10 days.

            Or

            He ships the rifle your to your local FFL and you go DROS it and pay FFL fees and wait your 10 days.

            As long as it's not some AW Listed Shotgun, then there is no big deal to this.


            EDIT

            12Gauge got me thinking "out of the box" a little.

            Another option is if he lives in State. Is have him give it to your wife(he can mail USPS it as long as he is in State). Your Wife sends in the DoJ form sends it in with $19 and that's it(takes about 3 months to get the confirmation letter). Under Cali law, it becomes community property, thus it becomes yours. If at a later time you want it to "officially" be your. Send in the Doj Form with $19


            DoJ form.
            http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/oplaw.pdf
            Ok. He lives in cali so ppt is no big deal. Standard 870 remington. I just dont know If its still registered to his father who is deceased. Find out more later. just trying to be on top of things. Thanks for the help. I'll post again with more info.

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            • #7
              Vin496
              Calguns Addict
              • Mar 2008
              • 8804

              Originally posted by fastpowerstroker
              Ok. He lives in cali so ppt is no big deal. Standard 870 remington. I just dont know If its still registered to his father who is deceased. Find out more later. just trying to be on top of things. Thanks for the help. I'll post again with more info.
              Doesn't matter, once his Father Died it became his. Long guns are not registered via serial #'s. So there is no record of the exact shotgun in the system.

              Just as when he gives it to your Wife, you are not required under law to send in the "registration" form.

              Hence the Intra Familal exception to using a FFL.

              Pleas go back and reread what I edited my post to say!!!! I fell victim to making a simple thing complex.
              Last edited by Vin496; 03-03-2009, 8:46 PM.
              I think it can be confirmed that an alien xenomorph is absolutely no match for good ole' Alabama black snake!

              and

              If you're in a survival movie and the hot blond twists her ankle and can't walk, you damn well figure a way to carry her. If it's a dude, you shake his hand and say "best of luck".

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              • #8
                fastpowerstroker
                Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 420

                Originally posted by Vin496
                Doesn't matter, once his Father Died it became his. Long guns are not registered via serial #'s. So there is no record of the exact shotgun in the system.

                Just as when he gives it to your Wife, you are not required under law to send in the "registration" form.

                Hence the Intra Familal exception to using a FFL.

                Pleas go back and reread what I edited my post to say!!!! I fell victim to making a simple thing complex.
                So its ok for him to give it to my wife and we legally use it for hunting/range use? He does not use it, but I wouldn't want to tell him his dad's rifle was taken by the game warden because it was not registered in my name

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                • #9
                  Vin496
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 8804

                  Originally posted by fastpowerstroker
                  So its ok for him to give it to my wife and we legally use it for hunting/range use? He does not use it, but I wouldn't want to tell him his dad's rifle was taken by the game warden because it was not registered in my name
                  Why would it get taken?

                  READ #5



                  Long Guns are not registered with the serial #. If you are concerned of this somehow becoming a issue then send in the DoJ form I gave you the link to.
                  I think it can be confirmed that an alien xenomorph is absolutely no match for good ole' Alabama black snake!

                  and

                  If you're in a survival movie and the hot blond twists her ankle and can't walk, you damn well figure a way to carry her. If it's a dude, you shake his hand and say "best of luck".

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                  • #10
                    fastpowerstroker
                    Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 420

                    My wife and I are new to firearms ownership. Just bought my first pistol and her Dad wanted to give us the long gun also. I read the laws but needed reasurince. I think I have a mild OCD I know what to do now. Thank you everyone. Love this site!

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                    • #11
                      Paperback
                      Junior Member
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 19

                      If long guns are not registered with the serial # then how are they registered? Meaning, how does the government know who owns what? When you buy a rifle or shotgun from say Big 5 or wherever, doesn't the gun get registered in the process?

                      I'm not trying to be a jerk. I seriously don't know, so am asking. Thanks.

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                      • #12
                        Quiet
                        retired Goon
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 30241

                        Originally posted by Paperback
                        If long guns are not registered with the serial # then how are they registered? Meaning, how does the government know who owns what? When you buy a rifle or shotgun from say Big 5 or wherever, doesn't the gun get registered in the process?

                        I'm not trying to be a jerk. I seriously don't know, so am asking. Thanks.
                        With the exception of assault weapons and NFA firearms, long guns are not registered in CA.

                        Make, model, and serial number is not listed on the DROS when you transfer a long gun. So, CA DOJ does not get that information.
                        Make, model, and serial number is listed on the 4473. Which is kept with the FFL dealer.

                        You can voluntarily register firearms with the CA DOJ.
                        You do so by sending a Firearms Ownership Record form along with $19 per firearm being registered to CA DOJ BOF.
                        Last edited by Quiet; 03-08-2009, 5:20 PM.
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