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  • #16
    San_Diego_Shooter
    Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 181

    This "junk" is why we moved out of PRK. So, glad we did. Good luck to you all, but there's no hope there.

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    • #17
      butlers
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 754

      Quiet, all,

      Originally posted by Quiet
      Penal Code 30312
      (a)(1) Commencing January 1, 2018, the sale of ammunition by any party shall be conducted by or processed through a licensed ammunition vendor.
      (2) When neither party to an ammunition sale is a licensed ammunition vendor, the seller shall deliver the ammunition to a vendor to process the transaction.
      Do we know how much will be charged to facilitate private ammunition transfers starting 1 January 2018? Will it be $10 (the fee charged to facilitate private firearm transfers), or less?
      Last edited by butlers; 11-27-2017, 12:32 PM.
      "The nation that will insist on drawing a broad line of demarcation between the fighting man and the thinking man is liable to find its fighting done by fools and its thinking done by cowards." William Francis Butler (not Thucydides)

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      • #18
        Coolguy101
        Senior Member
        • May 2011
        • 655

        The good news is the ammo flippers who bought up all the .22lr for the past couple of years are going to be stuck with it, as they can't sell it now for what they bought it for, and when the next ammo craze hits in three years, they will miss out.

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        • #19
          Anonreg_89323423
          Member
          • Sep 2017
          • 193

          Ok there's a lot of copy and paste going around, which isn't a bad thing, but it's all greek to me and I dont think I'm the only one.

          The short version: In january you cant buy online without using an ffl, which means your options are limited. Buy now, as much as you can afford, some companies have a cut-off date of december 15th. You also can't sell person-to-person without using an ffl like turners or whoever, which will either create a black market or increase prices or put them out of business and leave them stuck. I dont think your relative can legally give you a single round without getting a third party involved. You can buy as much as you want in-store, but the employee at the store has to have department of justice licensing. As to who will have it, it's more than likely walmart and turners will. And that's just keeping it simple. Starting july 2019, you need an in-state background check to buy any ammo. That may get thrown out because it's already been pushed back twice.

          There's also the matter of people selling on the private ammo part of calguns, among other forums. If they don't get rid of it, they'll be stuck with all of that product. Will prices go down? Remains to be seen, some people won't budge because of the whole "2A guns/ammo hold their own" belief. I took two years of economics and even I couldn't tell you, going to have to leave it to the free market to decide what happens.

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          • #20
            ja308
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Nov 2009
            • 12660

            Originally posted by San_Diego_Shooter
            This "junk" is why we moved out of PRK. So, glad we did. Good luck to you all, but there's no hope there.
            I would suggest you promote the great state of California to every Democrat Texan you meet. You are not many elections away from what we have here!

            As we all know the libtard mentality is alive and well in Texas with minorities, universities and of course swamp media !

            Meanwhile enjoy the laughs provided by the California democrat party. They are a never ending source of entertainment.

            Personally I fire very few rounds of ammunition as I prefer lots of dry practice so at this point it's not a big inconvenience.

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            • #21
              Jimi Jah
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2014
              • 18253

              Texas is turning blue very quickly. Look at Austin, that's San Francisco with humidity.

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              • #22
                ja308
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2009
                • 12660

                Originally posted by Jimi Jah
                Texas is turning blue very quickly. Look at Austin, that's San Francisco with humidity.
                If the president closes the border and deports lots of south of the border types Texas will be safe!


                Its even possible we get Virginia back into the pro liberty red state column !

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                • #23
                  Bushwack44
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 2034

                  Originally posted by Jimi Jah
                  Texas is turning blue very quickly. Look at Austin, that's San Francisco with humidity.
                  Not to get off topic, but government (the Obama era) kept giving things away for (nearly) free. Expect more cities to turn blue as the middle class disappears and lower class will punish upper class (one term of Trump isn't going to fix much - especially when you have Senate leaders jumping ship).

                  People like free things at the expense of others. I can only see this trend continuing for the rest of my lifetime and generations thereafter.
                  .
                  Facts are to liberals as kryptonite is to Superman.
                  ...

                  Feed a man a fish, he eats for a day (Democrat).
                  Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime (Republican).

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                  • #24
                    OrwellianEra
                    Junior Member
                    • Jul 2015
                    • 45

                    It's disconcerting how many seem to be A-OK with this new law "Eh, you'll just have to pay a tax", "Meh, you'll just be reporting the types of weapons you're buying for, how much you buy, how often you buy it etc. No big deal"

                    I consider this to be a huge deal and nothing short of the ammo embargoes perpetrated by the Tyrannical Empire that our forefathers hoped to escape. The second amendment means nothing if the Citizenry just lets it slowly get legislated out year by year.

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                    • #25
                      smittty
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 6253

                      Originally posted by OrwellianEra
                      It's disconcerting how many seem to be A-OK with this new law "Eh, you'll just have to pay a tax", "Meh, you'll just be reporting the types of weapons you're buying for, how much you buy, how often you buy it etc. No big deal"

                      I consider this to be a huge deal and nothing short of the ammo embargoes perpetrated by the Tyrannical Empire that our forefathers hoped to escape. The second amendment means nothing if the Citizenry just lets it slowly get legislated out year by year.
                      No question, its a big deal.

                      Eliminating the on-line competition, and adding the reporting requirements, ammo prices are going to go up!

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                      • #26
                        TRICKSTER
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 12438

                        Originally posted by OrwellianEra
                        It's disconcerting how many seem to be A-OK with this new law "Eh, you'll just have to pay a tax", "Meh, you'll just be reporting the types of weapons you're buying for, how much you buy, how often you buy it etc. No big deal"

                        I consider this to be a huge deal and nothing short of the ammo embargoes perpetrated by the Tyrannical Empire that our forefathers hoped to escape. The second amendment means nothing if the Citizenry just lets it slowly get legislated out year by year.
                        Funny, I don't recall seeing anything like that in this thread.


                        Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups

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                        • #27
                          AreWeFree
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 4558

                          Originally posted by OrwellianEra
                          It's disconcerting how many seem to be A-OK with this new law "Eh, you'll just have to pay a tax", "Meh, you'll just be reporting the types of weapons you're buying for, how much you buy, how often you buy it etc. No big deal"

                          I consider this to be a huge deal and nothing short of the ammo embargoes perpetrated by the Tyrannical Empire that our forefathers hoped to escape. The second amendment means nothing if the Citizenry just lets it slowly get legislated out year by year.
                          Originally posted by TRICKSTER
                          Funny, I don't recall seeing anything like that in this thread.

                          You're required to record the type and quantity of ammo received, if you self purchase with a FFL+COE whatever, right? Or are you exempt from all record keeping/reporting to DOJ?

                          The retailers will be reporting who/what/where to DOJ for all purchases, correct?

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                          • #28
                            Epaphroditus
                            Veteran Member
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 4888

                            So, hand a buddy a box of ammo at the range (legal). He takes the ammo home - violation. Wow.

                            At your home you give a friend a box of ammo for christmas - violation.
                            CA firearms laws timeline BLM land maps

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                            • #29
                              mif_slim
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 10089

                              Originally posted by Coolguy101
                              The good news is the ammo flippers who bought up all the .22lr for the past couple of years are going to be stuck with it, as they can't sell it now for what they bought it for, and when the next ammo craze hits in three years, they will miss out.
                              There won't be a ammo crazy because everyone is stuck with buying 500rds per 30 days... lol.them 22lr hoarders can't wait in line every day now like before.
                              Originally posted by Gottmituns
                              It's not protecting the rights of the 1%, it's IMPOSING new laws because of the 1%.

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                              • #30
                                smittty
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 6253

                                Originally posted by mif_slim
                                There won't be a ammo crazy because everyone is stuck with buying 500rds per 30 days... lol.them 22lr hoarders can't wait in line every day now like before.

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