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Last edited by OCEquestrian; 08-26-2017, 11:09 PM."Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater
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No two people's eyes, grip, strength, skeletal structure, resistance to recoil, etc, etc, are going to be the same. This is why we have to zero our bullet launchers. If you can have each of you take a particular gun, then you can zero it for you. If these are shared guns, then you'll just have to find a happy medium.
I can give you an example with two experienced shooters, myself and one of my brothers. He shot mainly PPC and some 3-Gun, and I shot mainly 3-Gun and some PPC. When we went to check zero with his S&W 586, with the same sight setting we were about a foot apart horizontally at 100 yds, on either side of the bull. Since the groups were roughly equidistant from the center, we figured that was as good as it was gonna get. (We were going to share the gun in a magnum pistol match.)I meant, it is my opinion that...

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That's what I was thinking too. Your likely squeezing the grip as you're squeezing the trigger. Get a firm grip and press the trigger to the rear. I also like the idea of having someone load your mags with a few dummy rounds so you can see what's happening when you shoot.Comment
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You're anticipating the recoil and flinching."Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Loading the random snap cap in, say, a five round string will likely give you a lot of information. Shoot several rounds of this and see what your gun is doing when you encounter the snap cap. If you're flinching or otherwise moving the gun, it should be fairly obvious.
Also note that the thing about dry firing is that your mind knows there isn't going to be a bang or any recoil. So it's fairly easy to relax and keep the gun steady. And don't get me wrong, dry fire practice is excellent and can really help improve your accuracy. But your brain is smart enough to know the difference. It's a whole new kettle of ducks once you've got live rounds and your brain knows that recoil is coming."Kestryll I wanna lick your doughnut."
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This!Loading the random snap cap in, say, a five round string will likely give you a lot of information. Shoot several rounds of this and see what your gun is doing when you encounter the snap cap. If you're flinching or otherwise moving the gun, it should be fairly obvious.
Also note that the thing about dry firing is that your mind knows there isn't going to be a bang or any recoil. So it's fairly easy to relax and keep the gun steady. And don't get me wrong, dry fire practice is excellent and can really help improve your accuracy. But your brain is smart enough to know the difference. It's a whole new kettle of ducks once you've got live rounds and your brain knows that recoil is coming.
Every time I am working with a new shooter, I always bring a revolver and leave one round out of the cylinder. It's instant and obvious feedback. One of the best tricks to eliminate anticipation flinching.Comment
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More often than not it is a trigger issue, mostly not squeezing the trigger rearward in a smooth motion. When you pull a trigger you tend to move the muzzle in the opposite direction of the pull, the grip rotates in your hand ever so slightly. Without actually seeing you shoot most of this is pure speculation, but the most common problem will be trigger control. I doubt it's a flinch issue since the group is pretty tight just off to the left. If it was a flinch I'd expect to see a much larger grouping.
As some have mentioned your support hand will have very little to do with it. In fact I'd be willing to bet that if you were to shoot one handed you'd get very similar results.Comment
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This. Exactly same here! Also your hands are probably bigger than your wife's so your trigger finger probably falls on trigger more towards the first joint which leads to 'pushing' the shot left. Adjust so your grip so it falls in the middle of the finger print and try that.
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If it's not the trigger finger try the two next closest options.Sorry, not sorry.
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No, that doesn't make sense, by the time you feel recoil the bullet has hind through the target. It is happening during your trigger squeeze.
Based on the old ring of problems target you are squeezing your whole hand while squeezing the trigger. In any case, something is causing the sight picture to shift slightly left when you fire.
A quick fix for this is placing your left thumb against the frame of the pistol. For me on my Glock 23 my thumb rests against the frame just in front of the takedown switch thingy. Experiment with pressure until you are dead on.Comment
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I'm going to do the snap caps for sure.
If all else fails I can use good ool Kentucky windage. I've figured out my hold to hit center of what I'm aiming at.
So that means what ever I'm doing wrong, at least it's constantly wrong!
Ill report back in a week or so.
I need to build a target holder so I can just go outside and practice.
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Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED
Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)
Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET
Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
(thanks to Jeff Cooper)Comment
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Snap caps aren't the answer for your problem. If you were flinching the shot group would not be as tight as it is. I've never seen anyone have a consistent repeatable flinch. It's more than likely trigger control or grip problem.I'm going to do the snap caps for sure.
If all else fails I can use good ool Kentucky windage. I've figured out my hold to hit center of what I'm aiming at.
So that means what ever I'm doing wrong, at least it's constantly wrong!
Ill report back in a week or so.
I need to build a target holder so I can just go outside and practice.
Perks of living in birch tree Missouri where tne cows out number humans 3 to 1 [emoji16]
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