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  • #16
    M1NM
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2011
    • 7966

    Those 15 rare un serialized pre 1968 guns that were stolen should cover the ammo.

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    • #17
      billped
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 2504

      State Farm sucks.
      Bill

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      • #18
        therealnickb
        King- Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2011
        • 8955

        Originally posted by Jefferson Prepared
        Did you have issues establishing the value of the home or the "everything in it?"

        I've had State Farm for decades and recently had a fire total a rental property. They quickly paid the $600,000 replacement cost, another $30,000 for asbestos cleanup, and a year's worth of lost rent. 20 years ago I totalled a car and they paid promptly then too.

        On the other hand, I don't use them for specialty stuff like my classic car.
        If memory serves, most of the losses in that Oakland event were way way underinsured. Lots of litigation to sort it out.

        Your experience with State Farm is more typical. That big fire was a wake up call for every insured in ca.

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        • #19
          therealnickb
          King- Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2011
          • 8955

          Originally posted by M1NM
          Those 15 rare un serialized pre 1968 guns that were stolen should cover the ammo.
          Hey, nice felony you got there!

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          • #20
            tanks
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2014
            • 4038

            Originally posted by Gundiver
            Said up to 5k for guns but zero on ammo. Is that common? Renters insurance. Agent compared ammo to the software on a computer saying "if someone steals your computer we cover that but not the programs on it".
            The statement in bold is not true. My computer was stolen (along with my HK 45) a while back. Not only State Farm covered my computer but paid for about $1K worth of software that I had to buy again (had receipts).
            "... when a man has shot an elephant his life is full"- John Alfred Jordan
            "A set of ivory tusks speaks of a life well lived." - Unknown

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            • #21
              Jimmy's
              Veteran Member
              • May 2016
              • 2600

              Originally posted by duckman1
              So is the TP in the bathroom and the food in the fridge and pantry, they pay for all of it.
              Try to collect on the ammo, I'll wait.

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              • #22
                duckman1
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Aug 2009
                • 3747

                Originally posted by Jimmy's
                Try to collect on the ammo, I'll wait.
                Have you seen the exclusion in writing? I don't work with SF but I work with many other companies and have never seen it excluded.

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                • #23
                  Skip_Dog
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2017
                  • 2656

                  If any one covers ammo in a policy, can you summit a claim after ever range trip. Call the agent and report that 1000+ rounds of ammo were destroyed in tiny individual fires?

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                  • #24
                    Jimmy's
                    Veteran Member
                    • May 2016
                    • 2600

                    Originally posted by duckman1
                    Have you seen the exclusion in writing? I don't work with SF but I work with many other companies and have never seen it excluded.
                    NO but I did insurance construction work ie.. Fire and flood for 11 years and talked with every single customer and even though numbers were very few maybe 5 none were compensated for lost ammo and some not even for the firearms amongst many other items. Not saying it would never happen but odds are very very slim. This was in California.

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                    • #25
                      duckman1
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 3747

                      Almost 30 years selling insurance in CA I have read the policies.....I don't play odds I play contacts.

                      Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

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                      • #26
                        GW
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • May 2004
                        • 16078

                        So add a rider to the policy specifying what you're covering.
                        Farmers does that.
                        sigpicNRA Benefactor Member

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                        • #27
                          MontClaire
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 4859

                          Originally posted by duckman1
                          If he cannot show you the exclusion in writing it's covered as personal property, period. It's not anything like software which is digital.
                          Even Software is covered. Always read exclusions. If it's not there, then it's covered.

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                          • #28
                            deadcoyote
                            Veteran Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 4002

                            I have State Farm, we ran into this issue with guns in general. My state
                            Farm guy was pretty cool, explained getting a generic rider policy for specialized high value items was cheaper than a Line Item for guns. I ended up just optioning an $18k rider and providing a thumb drive with photos to document what it covers.
                            Buying a safe and sane firework is like paying a hooker for a hug. I do not see the appeal in it.

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                            • #29
                              Spaceghost
                              Calguns Addict
                              • May 2006
                              • 5772

                              Ammunition is covered, subject to your deductible just like all personal property. Reloading components are not covered. Keep your receipts in a safe place that can't burn up or stolen with the ammo.

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                              • #30
                                spegull03
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 741

                                Read your policy, I've paid for ammo and reloading components as a claims adjuster (not State Farm though). If you are in the middle of claim, they are required to show you in writing exactly why a claim or item is excluded as a previous poster mentioned.

                                Also read any policy sublimits. The sublimity title may say $5,000 for theft of "firearms" but if you read the policy definition of a "firearm", you may find that it also includes scopes, ammo, holsters, cases, reloading components, etc. Also note that the sublimit only applies to theft, all other covered causes of loss are covered up to the full limit unless otherwise excluded.

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