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  • alfred 1staircav4div
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2015
    • 34

    Winchester

    What the heck is wrong with Winchester, how come they haven't tried to make rifles to compete with Ruger, Remington, etc. Doesn't seem like the stores sell much or at least advertise their products.

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    Jimmy's
    Veteran Member
    • May 2016
    • 2600

    Originally posted by alfred 1staircav4div
    What the heck is wrong with Winchester, how come they haven't tried to make rifles to compete with Ruger, Remington, etc. Doesn't seem like the stores sell much or at least advertise their products.

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    They have a great support already, what type of rifles are you thinking about
    Tactical, Long range, AR's? maybe they just choose not to go there. Lot's of rifle makers stick to standard type rifles.

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    • #3
      P5Ret
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2010
      • 6374

      If your talking bolt guns, it wasn't too long ago that the bolt gun you had was either a Winchester model 70 or a Remington 700. Both of them are still in production today, the quality isn't what it was but they both still sell well.

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      • #4
        lastinline
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2014
        • 2364

        If you want a quality "Winchester" lever-action, look at Miroku of Japan. As a collector of old Winchesters, I will say that they beat anything that ever came out of New Haven.

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          alfred 1staircav4div
          Junior Member
          • Feb 2015
          • 34

          I have a M70, 7mm mag, & I would like to start long range shooting. I really like this rifle but trying to find alot of after market parts is frustrating, I have a a Cheotei, (spelling not sure) because I just didn't like the McMillans, but all n all I'll work with it for now & may get a Ruger 338 later. I was just wondering why Winchester would not compete in such a lucrative market. It would make it easier on us that love Winchester. Thanks all.

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          • #6
            Jimmy's
            Veteran Member
            • May 2016
            • 2600

            Originally posted by alfred 1staircav4div
            I have a M70, 7mm mag, & I would like to start long range shooting. I really like this rifle but trying to find alot of after market parts is frustrating, I have a a Cheotei, (spelling not sure) because I just didn't like the McMillans, but all n all I'll work with it for now & may get a Ruger 338 later. I was just wondering why Winchester would not compete in such a lucrative market. It would make it easier on us that love Winchester. Thanks all.

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            You do not need to add tactical crap to shoot long distance. Get a B&C or H&S composite stock or any of the laminated stocks add a heavy barrel ,Timney trigger and your done.
            Last edited by Jimmy's; 07-23-2017, 5:23 PM.

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            • #7
              alfred 1staircav4div
              Junior Member
              • Feb 2015
              • 34

              Thanks for the help

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              • #8
                TMB 1
                Calguns Addict
                • Dec 2012
                • 7153

                Originally posted by lastinline
                If you want a quality "Winchester" lever-action, look at Miroku of Japan. As a collector of old Winchesters, I will say that they beat anything that ever came out of New Haven.
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                • #9
                  Milsurp Collector
                  Calguns Addict
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 5884

                  Originally posted by alfred 1staircav4div
                  What the heck is wrong with Winchester, how come they haven't tried to make rifles to compete with Ruger, Remington, etc. Doesn't seem like the stores sell much or at least advertise their products.
                  There really isn't a "Winchester Repeating Arms" company making firearms anymore. The New Haven, CT Winchester factory where all the classic Winchester arms had been manufactured since 1866 was closed in 2006.

                  "Winchester" firearms are now made under license by companies in Japan, Portugal, Turkey, and Belgium.
                  Revolvers are not pistols

                  pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
                  Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

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                  • #10
                    Quiet
                    retired Goon
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 30242

                    Originally posted by alfred 1staircav4div
                    What the heck is wrong with Winchester, how come they haven't tried to make rifles to compete with Ruger, Remington, etc. Doesn't seem like the stores sell much or at least advertise their products.
                    AFAIK...

                    Winchester is owned by the Olin Corporation.

                    In 1980, the Olin Corporation sold off all of the Winchester's firearm manufacturing assets/tooling/machinery to the US Repeating Arms Company, which was licensed to manufacture all Winchester firearm designs.

                    In 1989, Winchester firearm manufacturing rights were sold to FNH/Browning Arms Company.

                    In 2006, the US Repeating Arms Company went out-of-business and FNH/Browning was licensed to continue manufacturing all Winchester firearm designs.
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                    • #11
                      alfred 1staircav4div
                      Junior Member
                      • Feb 2015
                      • 34

                      Wow, didn't know this thanks

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                      • #12
                        bergmen
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 2488

                        Originally posted by Quiet
                        AFAIK...

                        Winchester is owned by the Olin Corporation.

                        In 1980, the Olin Corporation sold off all of the Winchester's firearm manufacturing assets/tooling/machinery to the US Repeating Arms Company, which was licensed to manufacture all Winchester firearm designs.

                        In 1989, Winchester firearm manufacturing rights were sold to FNH/Browning Arms Company.

                        In 2006, the US Repeating Arms Company went out-of-business and FNH/Browning was licensed to continue manufacturing all Winchester firearm designs.
                        Not according to the website in post #9 above: "Today we operate under the name (as we did years ago) Winchester Repeating Arms Company".

                        Dan

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                        • #13
                          Quiet
                          retired Goon
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 30242

                          Originally posted by bergmen
                          Not according to the website in post #9 above: "Today we operate under the name (as we did years ago) Winchester Repeating Arms Company".

                          Dan
                          Winchester Repeating Arms Company was the original name of the company that was established in 1866.

                          In 1935, the Olin Corporation acquired the Winchester Repeating Arms Company and merged it with the Western Cartridge Company. The merger changed the name of the company to the Winchester-Western Company.

                          The US Repeating Arms Company was the name of the company, that operate from 1980-2006, that manufactured Winchester firearms.

                          In 2006, when FNH/Browning acquired all the rights to manufacturing Winchester firearms, they brought back the use of the name Winchester Repeating Arms Company.
                          Last edited by Quiet; 07-24-2017, 6:29 PM.
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                          • #14
                            bergmen
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 2488

                            Originally posted by Quiet
                            Winchester Repeating Arms Company was the original name of the company that was established in 1866.

                            In 1935, the Olin Corporation acquired the Winchester Repeating Arms Company and merged it with the Western Cartridge Company. The merger changed the name of the company to the Winchester-Western Company.

                            The US Repeating Arms Company was the name of the company, that operate from 1980-2006, that manufactured Winchester firearms.

                            In 2006, when FNH/Browning acquired all the rights to manufacturing Winchester firearms, they brought back the use of the name Winchester Repeating Arms Company.
                            10-4, got it. It's so confusing these days. The bottom line is they seem to be highly concerned about quality of the firearms and from what I gather, they are very successful at it (although many of there legacy firearms are very pricey, the quality is second to none, especially concerming Miroku manufactured rifles).

                            Dan

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                            • #15
                              MrTokarev
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 2823

                              Much of what has been posted already is correct but I think it should be mentioned that model 70 rifles have been manufactured in South Carolina since 2008. By fn herstel but still in America.

                              I don't own one mine is an old new haven push feed) but I have heard that the fit and finish is even better than any new haven built model 70.

                              And all current production are pre 64 style controlled feed.
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