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Hello Calguns,
Ill try to keep this short. I would like to say that I have been reading up on these forums for some time now and there is a plethora of information that I am glad to read up on, and sharpen my skills in a variety of subjects. I am particularly interested in the PL&A tabs as i have been trying to keep updated in all that goes on in CA in regards to law, etc.
That being said i have been around firearms my whole life and consider them second nature really. It is a shame what is happening here in CA as we all know, and I have taken it upon myself to keep my ill informed counterparts somewhat updated, as the average person seems to be somewhat clueless. This to me is a shame.
Anyways, to the subject of matter. My good buddy who is new to this lifestyle, basically got burned (in my opinion and his) on this new rifle of his a while back that was purchased locally to us (north bay). It is a billet AR-15 manufactured by SWAT out of Campbell, TX. The rifle came with a bent rail for one (not a big deal really).
However, on further scrutiny and looking deeper into this matter, i have came by pretty negative reviews on a simple google searches, and found- of the little there is on their company- there is mostly negative feedback regarding similar QC issues, and a severe lack of information, and customer service.
This to me, more so than my buddy, was extremely disappointing as it was his first rifle- that he now has little regard for. He could only afford back up sights that are not even straight because of this rail and cannot be zeroed, and because of this, cant even shoot properly. So i do him a sold, and get him a Christmas present- a larue 12 inch rail to hopefully bring up his spirits. Go it put it on and what do you know? the standard pitch 1.25x18 barrel nut does not fit. BUMMER. Also standard uppers will not fit into this lower receiver w/o modification (the lugs are too wide). So we got multiple proprietary parts to work with.
So i do some more research, look all over their site, and what every other common forum is saying about them. I'm guessing this may be a metric thread pitch find basically nothing on that subject(although i haven't measured it yet). They claim to manufacture these uppers and lowers 'in house.' Who would not use a standard pitch unless it was outsourced is what i'm thinking.
The company has yet to get back to me. They do not answer their phones- and again- their site claims this is due to unusually high call volumes. The more i read on there site/forums, the more red flags are going off in my head.
I'm not trying to flame these guys, but from the little I came across its not looking good, and from our experience there may be a problem with QC, CS, they don't answer emails or phone calls. This to me is extremely worrisome when your spending hard earned cash on mid range prices.
Well i thought i would just share this experience. my only question is what can i do? Is it worth the hassle to put a f marked post and try to find a delta ring/barrel nut that will work? What are my options are there non standard barrel nuts that i can get my hands on that will work in conjunction with delta rings?
If all else fails i got a Front post and i can just cut a few inches off the rail to make it work.
Thanks guys go easy..
-Leel
Ill try to keep this short. I would like to say that I have been reading up on these forums for some time now and there is a plethora of information that I am glad to read up on, and sharpen my skills in a variety of subjects. I am particularly interested in the PL&A tabs as i have been trying to keep updated in all that goes on in CA in regards to law, etc.
That being said i have been around firearms my whole life and consider them second nature really. It is a shame what is happening here in CA as we all know, and I have taken it upon myself to keep my ill informed counterparts somewhat updated, as the average person seems to be somewhat clueless. This to me is a shame.
Anyways, to the subject of matter. My good buddy who is new to this lifestyle, basically got burned (in my opinion and his) on this new rifle of his a while back that was purchased locally to us (north bay). It is a billet AR-15 manufactured by SWAT out of Campbell, TX. The rifle came with a bent rail for one (not a big deal really).
However, on further scrutiny and looking deeper into this matter, i have came by pretty negative reviews on a simple google searches, and found- of the little there is on their company- there is mostly negative feedback regarding similar QC issues, and a severe lack of information, and customer service.
This to me, more so than my buddy, was extremely disappointing as it was his first rifle- that he now has little regard for. He could only afford back up sights that are not even straight because of this rail and cannot be zeroed, and because of this, cant even shoot properly. So i do him a sold, and get him a Christmas present- a larue 12 inch rail to hopefully bring up his spirits. Go it put it on and what do you know? the standard pitch 1.25x18 barrel nut does not fit. BUMMER. Also standard uppers will not fit into this lower receiver w/o modification (the lugs are too wide). So we got multiple proprietary parts to work with.
So i do some more research, look all over their site, and what every other common forum is saying about them. I'm guessing this may be a metric thread pitch find basically nothing on that subject(although i haven't measured it yet). They claim to manufacture these uppers and lowers 'in house.' Who would not use a standard pitch unless it was outsourced is what i'm thinking.
The company has yet to get back to me. They do not answer their phones- and again- their site claims this is due to unusually high call volumes. The more i read on there site/forums, the more red flags are going off in my head.
I'm not trying to flame these guys, but from the little I came across its not looking good, and from our experience there may be a problem with QC, CS, they don't answer emails or phone calls. This to me is extremely worrisome when your spending hard earned cash on mid range prices.
Well i thought i would just share this experience. my only question is what can i do? Is it worth the hassle to put a f marked post and try to find a delta ring/barrel nut that will work? What are my options are there non standard barrel nuts that i can get my hands on that will work in conjunction with delta rings?
If all else fails i got a Front post and i can just cut a few inches off the rail to make it work.
Thanks guys go easy..
-Leel
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