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  • tnlrat37
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 2166

    Watch your hands while unloading AD

    Might be a dupe but didn't see it. I saw this on the Walther forums.

    While unloading a live chambered round it bounced of his hand that was cupped over the ejection port to catch it and it went back into the gun and the slide hit the primer and casing. First time I have seen this, I have always locked my slide to the rear with the slide lock personally when I unload a chambered round.


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    artb
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Feb 2014
    • 1552

    Would not have envisioned that possibility.
    Thanks for the post.

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    • #3
      SonofWWIIDI
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Nov 2011
      • 21583

      Well that sucks!
      Sorry, not sorry.
      🎺

      Dear autocorrect, I'm really getting tired of your shirt!

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      • #4
        SkyHawk
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Sep 2012
        • 23513

        Originally posted by tnlrat37
        First time I have seen this, I have always locked my slide to the rear with the slide lock personally when I unload a chambered round.

        http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...kly+Newsletter
        Some guns don't have a slide lock you can manipulate (Walther PP series for example)
        Last edited by SkyHawk; 04-12-2017, 7:15 PM.
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        • #5
          tnlrat37
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 2166

          Originally posted by SkyHawk
          Some guns don't have a slide lock you can manipulate (Walther PP series for example)
          Very true, good point.
          "People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

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          • #6
            Robert1234
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2006
            • 3078

            Finger Injury

            Had a .40 S&W detonation while clearing a jam at a USPSA match. I'll see if I can dig up the pics, it was pretty spectacular.

            Interesting thing; there was never any pain. Pinky still tingles to this day (accident was in 2011). I cleared like most people rack a slide, hand over top/rear of slide, push gun forward, round came out, hit ejector and "BANG". Blood pouring out while RO is trying to DQ me. Finger was nowhere near trigger, and it wouldn't have mattered, the slide was all the way back when it detonated.

            Not much chance of this happening if one rides the slide back slowly and gently, but when clearing a jam on the clock, I was anything but show or gentle.

            Injury on way to hospital:




            Close-up:




            After clean-up in hospital ER:




            After clean-up in hospital ER they X-rayed the wound and saw a piece of brass from the shell casing inside. They had to dig around an pull it out:

            Last edited by Robert1234; 07-23-2017, 9:03 PM.

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            • #7
              ProtectThe2nd
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              • Mar 2016
              • 1225

              Article states he won't be able to make the mistake again...
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              ESCAPE IF YOU CAN


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              • #8
                MarikinaMan
                Veteran Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 4864

                So right hand is on frame left is on slide. He had his hand cupped over the port?

                Sounds like an awkward grip of the slide, if his palm was positioned far enough to leave space for a round.

                Competing at matches, I've gotten good at ejecting a round and catching it in mid air.

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                • #9
                  1911su16b870
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 7654

                  Glock has been sharing this "don't catch rounds in your hand during unloading because this [primer ignition from edge of slide/extractor] can happen" for the last 6+ years in the armorers classes.

                  Unloading - remove magazine, rack slide, live cartridge is ejected - hits floor, pick it up off the floor...
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                  • #10
                    Bainter1212
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 5936

                    I have perfected racking the slide and catching the round in the air with my CZ75.
                    Still though....whenever I need to unload, I let the round fly clear of the gun. Better to deal with a round on the floor than trying to mess around akwardly with a live weapon.

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                    • #11
                      cvigue
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2015
                      • 1525

                      Originally posted by tnlrat37
                      .... I have always locked my slide to the rear with the slide lock personally when I unload a chambered round.
                      Same. I wouldn't have ever considered letting the slide just go forward.

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                      • #12
                        cvigue
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 1525

                        Originally posted by SkyHawk
                        Some guns don't have a slide lock you can manipulate (Walther PP series for example)
                        All of mine do.

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                        • #13
                          Cokebottle
                          Seņor Member
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 32373

                          Depends on the gun.
                          The Kahr P380 is a tough cookie to rack. Glocks are easy. Shield was nasty until it broke in.

                          If a slide is being stubborn and needs a death grip, I'll make sure I drop the mag first and let the round drop out the grip.
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                          • #14
                            Win231
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2015
                            • 2099

                            Thanks for posting it.
                            I've always held the gun tilted over a bed, table, floor, etc, racked the slide with thumb & index finger of other hand - no body parts near the ejection port. Or, if the recoil spring is stiffer, use the other hand (in front of the ejection port) to push the slide back. With the gun tilted, it's not necessary to pull the slide back briskly; the chambered round can just fall out-either from the ejection port or down the mag well. I know it's possible for the round to fire if anything hits the primer.

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                            • #15
                              therealnickb
                              King- Lifetime
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 8919

                              Originally posted by artb
                              Would not have envisioned that possibility.
                              Thanks for the post.
                              I watched a cocky dude at the first CC class I attended pull that move. And I admit, I've tried it as well. Maybe twice.

                              It never felt right to grasp over and capture/trap the ejected round like that. Moving parts. Loose round. No visual. Didn't seem right to me. Just a show off move with no real benefit.

                              No more.

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