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  • stillwater562
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 1739

    Is this Legal?

    I am planning on selling a M1A with what I believe is a Muzzle Break, has the holes throughout not the long lines in the metal like the flash suppressor, is this still ok in Ca. With the way laws are changing just want to make sure the muzzle break is ok, so we have no problems with it....thanks in advance...
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    edgerly779
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2009
    • 19871

    pics, mfg,,,

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    • #3
      bronco75a
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2016
      • 659

      Featureless ARs are allowed to have muzzle brakes so I see no reason why an M1A couldn't have one.
      Last edited by bronco75a; 03-27-2017, 1:19 PM.

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      • #4
        stillwater562
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 1739

        Originally posted by Blade Gunner
        M1A are not covered by any of the AW legislation.
        So your saying a M1A can have a Flash Suppressor as well then?
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        • #5
          JohnnyMtn
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 1475

          If it's the standard Springfield muzzle break that comes on SA M1As sold in gun stores in CA and your M1A is still in the featureless config (I.e. You haven't put the rifle in some stock that has a pistol grip) then you're GTG.

          Post a pic of the rifle and the break and someone could confirm for sure.

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          • #6
            Blade Gunner
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 4422

            Is this Legal?

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            Last edited by Blade Gunner; 03-29-2017, 8:28 AM.
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            • #7
              Mitch
              Mostly Harmless
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Mar 2008
              • 6574

              Originally posted by Blade Gunner
              Yes it can, just no NFA item (sound suppressor)
              Wrong, wrong, wrongity-wrong.

              The M1A is a semi-automatic rifle with a detachable magazine and so can not have any evil features. A flash suppressor is an evil feature. An M1A equipped with a flash suppressor is an illegal assault weapon under almost 20 year old California law.

              As others have stated, MIAs sold in California for the last decade and a half have generally been equipped with muzzle brakes (not "breaks") instead of flash suppressors, as is standard in most of the rest of the country.
              Originally posted by cockedandglocked
              Getting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.

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              • #8
                IrishJoe3
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 3804

                Originally posted by Blade Gunner
                Yes it can, just no NFA item (sound suppressor)


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                Stop stop stop before you get someone arrested. If you do not know, stop talking.

                An M1A with a standard removable magazine can NOT have a flash hider. ANY semi auto center fire rifle with a removable magazine AND a flash hider is a felony.

                M1As with a brake are legal.

                M1As come cal legal with a brake. The brakes have holes drilled in it. In free America they come with an M14 style flash hider, or slots. That variation is illegal here
                Urban legends are a poor basis for making public policy.

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                • #9
                  edgerly779
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 19871

                  I get things mixed up as well.
                  Last edited by edgerly779; 03-27-2017, 4:46 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Blade Gunner
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 4422

                    I stand corrected. It just takes one "evil feature". A flash hider is an evil feature.


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                    • #11
                      Librarian
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                      • Oct 2005
                      • 44660

                      And, 'is this legal' means the question really goes to the legal forum, http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/f...play.php?f=349

                      As noted, a CA-sold M1A will have a muzzle brake, and is NOT an assault weapon in a non-pistol-grip (as usually sold) stock.

                      Asked and answered, but left open for OP to provide pic of the rifle and whatever thing hangs off the muzzle.
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                      • #12
                        Mitch
                        Mostly Harmless
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 6574

                        Originally posted by CJ5&G23
                        Folks, full stop. A Flash Suppressor on a semi is an evil feature making it an AW in CA.
                        On a semi-automatic centerfire rifle with a detachable magazine, to be precise.

                        A flash suppressor would be legal, for example, on an SKS or a 10/22.
                        Originally posted by cockedandglocked
                        Getting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.

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                        • #13
                          smoothy8500
                          Veteran Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 3846

                          I was looking in the marketplace last week and came across a M1A for sale that has the flash hider. Either by accident or misguided info, it happens.

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                          • #14
                            DaveInOroValley
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 8967

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                            • #15
                              1911su16b870
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                              • Dec 2006
                              • 7654



                              Top is a flash hider

                              Bottom is a brake and CA GTG
                              Last edited by 1911su16b870; 03-29-2017, 11:34 AM. Reason: break -> brake, isn't it just as sweet :D
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