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  • #16
    ElvenSoul
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Apr 2008
    • 17431

    Originally posted by Merc1138
    Colt's pattern of failure for the past 30 years is honestly kind of comical, and miraculous that they haven't simply fallen apart entirely already.

    Re-engineered the AA2000 pistol to be a POS before getting it to retail, haven't come up with a new semiauto pistol since.

    Their OHWS submission was an absolute joke.

    Their "competition" ARs weren't even made in house, and neither were their "collector replicas"(which apparently weren't even the right color).

    Haven't been able to come up with anything that could be called a modern service pistol in over 30 years.

    Their M2012 bolt action rifles were just all off the shelf hardware possibly not even assembled in-house, in a crowded market sold by a company not known for precision rifles, as a high priced precision rifle.

    Their .22lr rifles are just re-branded walthers.

    Their snake revolvers have had pretty high demand from a possibly vocal minority for 10 years, did absolutely nothing with regards to marketing that they were even still available from the custom shop before they completely quit production, and refused to come up with anything actually new in terms of their revolver line up and simply abandoned it(only to just now try and bring back the Cobra).

    Can't get AR-15s out the door and has to declare bankruptcy after the biggest civilian gun buying spree in the past 100 years(possibly ever) for no discernable reason(at least HK has the excuse of interference from the German government regarding their ability to basically print money by producing older designs in high demand).

    When they finally do have a surplus of inventory, it's overpriced.

    Wants to rely on their 901 rifle platform instead of anything actually accepted on the market as far as ARs in .308 go.

    Gets undercut on their contracts by FN for what, 50% off? JFC, and of course they had no other military contracts unlike say.. FN that produces a wide variety of arms instead of just relying on one contract alone to prop up the entire business.

    Colt shouldn't have survived past the early 90s.
    Example Case. I bought a Talo Colt Limited Edition Railed 1911 Commander last month.

    Only by accident did I find out about them. Zero advertising. Only 350 Made.
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    • #17
      Wallabing
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 1499

      Nobody buys damn colt products anymore, nobody is going to shed a tear.

      Of all their 1911s and ar15s they make, other companies make them better at even better prices.

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      • #18
        FISHNFRANK
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 1029

        Well, deciding to not submit any pistols to CA for testing and getting thrown off the approved list can't be helping that very much can it...

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        • #19
          smle-man
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2007
          • 10593

          They need to get out of CT and lower their labor costs. Start fresh down south.

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          • #20
            PolishMike
            Calguns Addict
            • Nov 2007
            • 6034

            Originally posted by FISHNFRANK
            Well, deciding to not submit any pistols to CA for testing and getting thrown off the approved list can't be helping that very much can it...
            That one is not their fault. They can't.
            Artist formally known as CEO of Tracy Rifle and Pistol

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            • #21
              nickel plate
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 2123

              Originally posted by Wallabing
              Nobody buys damn colt products anymore, nobody is going to shed a tear.

              Of all their 1911s and ar15s they make, other companies make them better at even better prices.
              Do you even own a Colt?

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              • #22
                357manny
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2016
                • 1676

                Well damn. Someone else buy the company up, and restructure the POS management while keeping the talented gunsmiths and CS.
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                • #23
                  kmas
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 1315

                  Originally posted by Mickey D
                  They need to start selling in CA - we will get them profitable again, by paying large premiums (I certainly am willing to do so to get those 1911's)

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                  • #24
                    erik_26
                    Veteran Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3907

                    Originally posted by Jimmy's
                    I just got a new Combat Commander and I'm glad I did. I keep reading others replies that Colt has capped out on fit and finish. 100% not true on the gun I got or the 7 that I handled in the store.
                    I can't speak for 7 of them. But a couple years ago I bought a Colt Defender while they were still on the roster. I love that gun. The fit and finish was exactly what I expected at its price point. It is fun, shoots well and hasn't given me any problems.
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                    • #25
                      solipsism
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 1332

                      While this is sad, it's their own fault, and has me excited that my CCS M45A1 might be one of the last ones.

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                      • #26
                        357manny
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2016
                        • 1676

                        Originally posted by solipsism
                        While this is sad, it's their own fault, and has me excited that my CCS M45A1 might be one of the last ones.
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                        • #27
                          gunnlover
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 1512

                          I bought a 1991 in the early 90's and regret selling it. $459 from Weisers in National City CA.

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                          • #28
                            neduban
                            Member
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 214

                            Good luck sending anything back for repair you will wait for months f-them I'm done with them

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                            • #29
                              hermosabeach
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 19628

                              More in depth thread in off topic

                              They have gone bankrupt a few times.....

                              They were boycotted in the 90's as they were anti civilian gun ownership
                              They stopped selling 1911 and ARs to civilians
                              They pushed for smart gun technology

                              We were only good enough for revolvers.....


                              They overpay management
                              They waste money
                              They are a union firm

                              They have somewhere around $500,000,000 million in debt

                              That is after a decade of war.... and record sales......
                              Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                              Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                              Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                              Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                              (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                              • #30
                                Solidsnake87
                                Veteran Member
                                • Jun 2006
                                • 4399

                                Im surprised cerberus doesnt swoop in and buy them up the way theyve bought out other gun companies.
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