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  • CandG
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    • Apr 2014
    • 16970

    Question for people w/ grip wraps

    I don't have any rifles with grip wraps, and I'm not particularly planning to start, but I have a question for those who do use them.

    When shooting off-hand, without being able to wrap your thumb around anything, isn't it awkward to change magazine? Once you take your support hand off the rifle, you're basically only holding the rifle by squeezing the grip between your fingers and palm, while the rifle's center of gravity is significantly forward of that. I imagine you counter the rifle's tendency to want to fall forward out of your hand by keeping the butt in your shoulder, but if you break shoulder contact wouldn't it be really easy to accidentally drop the rifle on the ground?

    That's the single biggest issue I've seen with grip wraps - one-handed holding of the rifle seems challenging, awkward, and potentially even unsafe.

    Am I just imagining this problem, or is this an issue you guys are facing?

    Here's a video of a guy performing the action I'm describing, and he doesn't seem to be struggling, but... well, it's youtube, not real life.

    Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


  • #2
    NIKSD
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2013
    • 1126

    I have no problem with holding the rifle /Ar15, AK47/74, SCAR 16/17.../with grip wrap during mag changes. Not hard at all.
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    • #3
      Steve1968LS2
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      • Feb 2010
      • 9275

      I have no issue.. even easier with the Exile Machine thumb rest deal..

      Oh, and it makes mag changes WAY easier in other ways.. lol
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      • #4
        Red9
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2014
        • 2900

        Imho beats having a aw. Better than a maglock.

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        • #5
          Grumpyoldretiredcop
          Calguns Addict
          • Sep 2008
          • 6437

          I never had a problem with that.
          I'm retired. That's right, retired. I don't want to hear about the cop who stopped you today or how you didn't think you should get a ticket. That just makes me grumpy!

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          • #6
            steelheadmike
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 691

            Originally posted by Steve1968LS2
            I have no issue.. even easier with the Exile Machine thumb rest deal..

            Oh, and it makes mag changes WAY easier in other ways.. lol
            ^^^^^ this

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            • #7
              BJJ223
              Member
              • Jun 2016
              • 143

              Put some skateboarder tape on your grip wrap. It will make it much easier to hold.

              No problem doing mag changes.

              The whole "no pistol grip" is retarded. But, the grip wrap is not that bad. Still retarded.

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              • #8
                mnichols
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2013
                • 2625

                You get used to it quick. I don't even think about it, just seems normal. I gave up bullet buttons right after i used one. Featureless is the best option for me given the current legal options, by far.

                I tend to keep the stock against my shoulder, and yes, Exile's Backfin is even better.
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                • #9
                  Calico1404
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2016
                  • 3401

                  X's 2 for the guys who say it's easy. You keep your stock tuck into your shoulder so your off hand is actually just supporting the weight of your rifle.

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                  • #10
                    skyscraper
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 5198

                    Its no problem at all. We are talking about changing mags at the range. No Stress, no pressure, no big deal.

                    In a doomsday event, pretty sure everyones grip wrap is going off with the twist of two screws.

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                    • #11
                      CandG
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                      • Apr 2014
                      • 16970

                      Originally posted by Calico1404
                      X's 2 for the guys who say it's easy. You keep your stock tuck into your shoulder so your off hand is actually just supporting the weight of your rifle.
                      Makes sense, I had been thinking in terms of doing the mag change with your support hand, but if you switch to doing it with your dominant hand then it would solve that issue
                      Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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                      • #12
                        bender152
                        Veteran Member
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 4237

                        Originally posted by cockedandglocked
                        When shooting off-hand, without being able to wrap your thumb around anything, isn't it awkward to change magazine?
                        Changing the magazine with a bullet button installed is less awkward?

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                        • #13
                          Scratch705
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                          • May 2009
                          • 12530

                          i move the rifle off my shoulder and pin the buttstock in my armpits while doing mag changes.

                          that is how i get around the less than optimal grip with the finned grip.
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                          • #14
                            Full Clip
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                            • Dec 2006
                            • 10263

                            No problem using Monsterman grips on both ARs and AKs.
                            Maybe you need to invest in one of these:

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                            • #15
                              Wordupmybrotha
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                              • Oct 2013
                              • 6965

                              I haven't used it to do run and guns. Just shot leisurely off hand and at the bench, so mag changes aren't a big deal. But ditching the AK mag-lock is well-worth it.

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