Gun Broker Transaction go bad

[opass]

Hello,

I won and paid a handgun, Sig P226, at GunBroker.com. 5 Days later We discovers it is a off roster item and require PPT at FFL no shipping.

Seller and I both located in California but 450 miles away to each other. It is not worth it for the drive even half way to meet.

Seller is a private party not an FFL. The listing did not mention any terms about restocking fee. Now Seller decide to charge 20% fee on his own to cover his time lost. I offer to pay the GunBroker fee $30. However, seller send me a refund check and keep 20% on his own. Can seller charge whatever he want and blame on buyer fault????

Fact: It was a 3 days auction. I am the only one who bid.....not BuyNow.

The gun never ship.

Seller and I both thought this is eligible to ship to FFL for transfer when we email to each other at the end of the auction.

Seller lost 5 days.

This is the description of the ad:

Please read the Item Characteristics for important listing details.

Great condition as you can see from pictures. I bought this around 1994 and it might have around 800 rounds through it. Only shot maybe 3 times in the last 10 years! This is the desirable model made in W. Germany. The ones today are put together her in USA. Comes with 2 high cap magazines. You must know restrictions on these. FFL required

[SkyHawk]

I'd charge you 20% too. WTH were you thinking trying to ship an off roster gun around in CA? There is a reason that every single off roster gun listed for sale on calguns says WILL NOT SHIP.

It is on you to be sure what you are buying is on roster before shipping it back and forth across the state and before committing to buy it at auction.

Were there other bidders that you outbid? Did the seller ever ship the gun? That would affect the fee I would charge. If you outbid other bidders that could have completed the sale, or had me ship my gun back and forth - I'd be plenty pissed.


It sucks, but consider this a cheap lesson. Plenty of other people have paid more to find out.

[opass]

Seller also left negative feedback on my GB account and make 20% of this transaction. I did not leave any feedback on his GB account yet.

[CALI-gula]

It was on YOU to verify it was CA Roster OK, and you did not. You wasted the guy's time on a Gunbroker auction; even more so if there were other bidders.

20% fee on his own to cover his time lost seems fair to me. Most any vendor has a 20% restocking fee when you screw them over because you can not complete the sale.

I don't think there is any "fraud" here. You screwed up, made a mess, and cost him time and aggravation, maybe even a lost sale. It's not just about the Gunbroker fee; it's that AND his time, wasted efforts, lost sale to someone else, etc.

I bought this around 1994 /// This is the desirable model made in W. Germany.

That right there should have indicated to you it was not on the CA Roster.


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[CALI-gula]

Seller also left negative feedback on my GB account and make 20% of this transaction. I did not leave any feedback on his GB account yet.

You deserved it. You did not research it prior to purchase, and you could not complete the sale. That is a negative experience for him that you created.


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[tradecraft]

20% is fair. Do your homework next time.

[SkyHawk]

Tried to buy a W. German P226 on Gunbroker and expect shipping?

[sloppy joe]

How many of these "gun broker" threads must we read?

[opass]

So even seller can keep half to cover his time lost???? or what ever he feel like?

FYI, Seller never ask about the restocking fee until I got the refund check today.

[kcheung2]

Yeah I'd leave you negative feedback & keep a fee also. You didn't do your research, you wasted the seller's time.

[Cokebottle]

So even seller can keep half to cover his time lost???? or what ever he feel like?

FYI, Seller never ask about the restocking fee until I got the refund check today.

You are lucky it only cost you 20%.

I would have said "Sorry, you bought it, it's your problem now"

[opass]

Ok guys......Lesson learned.

I do own ON Roster P226 that purchased in 2014. For some reason, I looked at this 20 years old P226 Germany and could not tell the differences on the markings.......and then place a bid........long story short.....I fail to do research thoroughly and cost some $$$$........

I feel better hearing from the 3rd party opinions......

[81turbota]

I side with the seller. You should have done your research on the roster.

[2meterB]

As others said, you biffed it. But he should have disclosed the 20% ahead of time if he was planning on retaining it.

[bigmike82]

It's a dick move to to charge an arbitrary fee on an honest mistake without disclosure. Worth negative feedback and move on.