Bringing in a "named" lower legally?

[Vin496]

I have a type 56-1 AK that I keep back in Texas, and I have been wondering if it would be possible to bring it out here to California with me?

Are there any options? The only reason I'm even considering it is because I never go shooting my rifles here in California, I just find it too much of a hassle. I have this fancy AR that I have shot once out here in over a year since I got it(the week I got it), yet every time I go out of State, I use it quite a bit. I would like to be able to bring my Ak and a FAL I have out here so when I go to Nevada and Arizona I would be able to take them.

Is there any way to do so without messing them up? Could I just take out the bolts and piston? Or do I have to fully disassemble them? If these are even options.

[Fate]

Listed = felony upon importation. No ifs, ands or buts. Sorry.

[domokun]

Listed = felony upon importation. No ifs, ands or buts. Sorry.

+1 on this. You're SOL on this issue. The only legal option is to move out of CA and be closer with your guns...

[postal16]

you can get off-list recievers, and bring on all the other parts (minus the listed reciever) and build around it...in the meantime your friend can use the listed reciever as a paperwieght in Texas

[sorensen440]

none that I know of for the reciever

[joemama]

Just going out on a limb here but is it legal to have it re-engraved with different markings to turn it into an oll, or are you only allowed to have engraving done on something like an 80%?

[Matt C]

Even named if it's named if it's not a semiautomatic firearm it's not banned. A stripped receiver is not a semiautomatic firearm.

Defensible? Yes.

Prosecution likely under certain circumstances? Possible.

12276. As used in this chapter, "assault weapon" shall mean the
following designated semiautomatic firearms:

[Omega13device]

As the other posters said, no-go on bringing listed firearms into CA. But there are plenty of off-list AK and FAL options, why not assemble a second, CA-legal collection out here? By doing that you get the extra benefit of not having to drag your rifles back and forth all the time.

Even named if it's named if it's not a semiautomatic firearm it's not banned. A stripped receiver is no a semiautomatic firearm.

Defensible? Yes.

Prosecution likely under certain circumstances? Possible.

Interesting point (maybe someone could get a letter from Allison saying it's legal?) but the OP's issue was about convenience and I'm not sure that having to disassemble and re-assemble his rifles every time he goes in and out of CA solves that problem.

[armygunsmith]

I had asked something similar in another thread, but it really didn't go anywhere. Maybe someone knows specifically what laws prevents someone from doing this.

[thedrickel]

I am of the opinion that it is legal to buy a listed LOWER . . . as long as it's not build up into a rifle. The DOJ already knows that they can't list lowers . . . which leads me to believe they know that lowers can't be listed as AW because listed lowers aren't AW unless they are built up to rifles.

[Matt C]

I am of the opinion that it is legal to buy a listed LOWER . . . as long as it's not build up into a rifle. The DOJ already knows that they can't list lowers . . . which leads me to believe they know that lowers can't be listed as AW because listed lowers aren't AW unless they are built up to rifles.

Arguably you could even build it into a rifle if it was not semiautomatic (IE pump action) but you would be walking a fine line. Also let's not forget the Iggy/Evans letters that would give you another defense.

[Librarian]

I had asked something similar in another thread, but it really didn't go anywhere. Maybe someone knows specifically what laws prevents someone from doing this.

Lots of people know the specific law on this:

Penal Code 12280. (a) (1) Any person who, within this state, manufactures or
causes to be manufactured, distributes, transports, or imports into
the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who
gives or lends any assault weapon or any .50 BMG rifle, except as
provided by this chapter, is guilty of a felony, and upon conviction
shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for four, six,
or eight years.

Now you do, too.

You can find the definition for 'assault weapon' here. The 'Kasler List', as well as a repeat of the original AWCA list and the few added weapons, are in California Code of Regulations, Title 11.

[Omega13device]

Librarian - BWO's point hinges on the fact that 12276 uses the term "semiautomatic" in the definition of assault weapon. The term "assault weapon" is used throughout the PC so I'd think there's a valid question there about whether there's an opening for stripped receivers since they have no action by definition.

[armygunsmith]

Librarian- Thanks for the info, but i was specifically referencing law that prevents someone from re-designating a lowers model, thus making not technically On-list. At least that's how i understand the OP's question.

[domokun]

Librarian- Thanks for the info, but i was specifically referencing law that prevents someone from re-designating a lowers model, thus making not technically On-list. At least that's how i understand the OP's question.

You cannot change the markings on the receiver after it's left the factory. Only the manufacturer of the receiver can do that because they need to update their books to reflect the change.

When you do an 80% build or something similar and manufacture a firearm for personal use from a raw piece of metal (i.e. 0% or 80%, flat receiver), then you are allowed to put any markings you want on it for make, model and serial number. However to my knowledge, this does not apply to receivers that are made by a licensed 07 FFL.