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  • ShredLA
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 687

    Guaranteed MOA or below barrels?

    If somebody wanted to build a very accurate upper for an AR type rifle are there any companies that stand by/guarantee that their barrels will shoot MOA or sub (is it even possible)?
    I always assumed a company like Noveske that charges upwards of
    $600.00(+/-) would guarantee the accuracy but after 'some' research it seems to be a crapshoot.

    18inch is ideal

    I know some of you calguns oldtimers got a wealth of info..
    Last edited by ShredLA; 01-02-2017, 11:08 AM. Reason: Forgot to state platform
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    CouchOperator
    Veteran Member
    • May 2016
    • 4353

    I think i recall larue guaranteeing sub moa rifles, but the shooter will be the biggest variable in regards to an individuals personal experience with a product


    They guarantee it if you scroll down a bit in the description
    Discover LaRue precision rifles, mounts, triggers, and rifle components built in Texas for shooters who demand proven performance and precision.
    Last edited by CouchOperator; 01-02-2017, 11:12 AM.

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    • #3
      plumbworker
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 606

      Les Baer also guarantees sub moa I believe.

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      • #4
        vliberatore
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Dec 2011
        • 10055

        Generally you don't get MOA guarantees on barrels since there are other factors that come into play such as installation.
        Originally posted by fighterpilot562
        Damn it man! We could have got drunk, called a taxi and drop by Kest house with a mega phone.

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        • #5
          DRM6000
          CGN Contributor
          • Jan 2006
          • 5843

          If you're looking for a high-quality barrel manufacturer and more, look to Ballistic Advantage to serve your needs! Click here to learn more!


          All Ballistic Advantage barrels are guaranteed to give sub Minute of Angle (MOA) accuracy with match grade ammunition.

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          • #6
            highpower790
            Veteran Member
            • Jun 2013
            • 3481

            Buy a Krieger ,do your job,and 1moa or less is at hand.
            Keep it simple!

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            • #7
              OlderThanDirt
              FUBAR
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jun 2009
              • 5870

              Rock River Arms used to advertise many of their rifles as 0.5 MOA. I didn't really believe it until I used one of their barrels for my wife's rifle and she leaves nothing but one big hole in the middle of the target.
              We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying. ~ Solzhenitsyn
              Thermidorian Reaction . . Prepare for it.

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              • #8
                russ69
                Calguns Addict
                • Nov 2009
                • 9348

                You can build a 1/2 MOA gun but are you a 1/2 MOA shooter? Most of the aftermarket barrel makers would work with you to get under 1 MOA. If you want to get under 1/2 MOA, you better know what you are doing and a barrel maker might still work with you. Now when you get down to 1/4 MOA most of us know it's the luck of the draw if you get that good of a barrel and if you want more than that you'll have to put in the work or try a different barrel.
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                • #9
                  ShredLA
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 687

                  That larue system is nice.. the handguard looks a bit outdated and really heavy IMO. too bad they do not allow you to purchase without the accessories. they advertise them being free but they must be factored into the price some way..

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                  • #10
                    tigerpan
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 2195

                    I have lilja barrel in my ar10 it shoots submoa. cost about 300ish

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                    • #11
                      WOODY2
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 1511

                      Iron Works Tactical in Corona builds such uppers

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                      • #12
                        FourT6and2
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 1928

                        Get a high-end barrel from Bartlein, Krieger, Hawk Hill, etc. and it'll shoot just fine. It's the smith who chambers the barrel and installs it that really matters. Any of those barrels will outshoot a Noveske easily. Will cost you more, though.

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                        • #13
                          therealnickb
                          King- Lifetime
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 8927

                          Originally posted by plumbworker
                          Les Baer also guarantees sub moa I believe.
                          1/2moa

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                          • #14
                            Vigilante
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 647

                            Originally posted by highpower790
                            Buy a Krieger ,do your job,and 1moa or less is at hand.
                            I totally agree. Krieger is the way to go, and they will stand behind their product if it doesn't shoot.

                            OP, keep in mind that you may need to shoot something higher quality than PMC bronze (or other like products) if you're looking to get sub-MOA groups. I do not mean to be rude by that comment, but I thought I would throw it out there, because I've run into too many people that expect good accuracy with lower quality ammo. My experience has been this: junk barrels won't shoot anything sub-MOA, run of the mill production and lower-end custom barrels may be selective with the loads that will shoot sub-MOA, and top shelf barrels, like Krieger, will generally shoot a wider range of loads sub-MOA. YMMV.

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                            • #15
                              bigdawg86
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 3554

                              I have a 24" Lilja in my 6.5 Creedmoor semiautomatic build.... It's a half to 3/4 MOA rifle without much effort, but I have shot a few 1/4 inch groups (not sure if me or the rifle or unicorns).

                              I do reload.

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