Interesting concept

[DarkKing]

So I been experimenting with loading my AR-15 chambered in 5.56/.223 without removing the magazine and having upper receiver in the attached position.

While I was toying just loading the rounds through the extractor port, it was rather easy to do. So I next wondered how to speed up that process with all of this Fixed mag BS rules going on.

I had a spare upper receiver and started to modify it. I've gotten it to a point where I can use a stripper clip to load it without removing the magazine.

Essentially I made a cutout at the top of the receiver which allowed me to insert the stripper clip and fully load the 10 round mag.

Currently am toying with a flip up port that uses the rails and a sliding brace to add reinforcement to keep the strength in it still.
The other idea is a pop in design secured with the same braces
My current challenge is the gas tube I haven't decided what to do with it.

I can either split it so it comes down to the sides in a Y pattern or cut it short but that brings whole other set of interesting designs to be add. I'm also toying with the idea of adding an extension tube for the gas tube so when you close the stripper clip port it will slide into the gas tube and have a piece that fits to regular length.



This is more so an interesting concept. I for some reason love the feel of loading a firearm with a stripper clip like my grandfathers M1. Use a stripper clip without having to replace a magazine just feels.... interestingly idk warm and fuzzy hahahahah.

Ultimately this may be pointless but I find it a fun project.
Also I will probably need to order more gas tubes <.<




as a disclaimer the parts I am using are spares that are readily replaceable and cheap components right now. (the upper is a cheap spare-the one I'm modifying)

also another disclaimer. I use a red dot on my AR so I just moved it back. I doubt I could get this to work with a scope unless it was offset and even then IDK. AGAIN this is just a fun side project.




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[LeadFarmer74]

Well I don't understand it but I applaud your creativeness.

[DarkKing]

Well I don't understand it but I applaud your creativeness.

There isn't a actual point to it. I just got bored while being off from work and wondered if I could do it.


I doubt this would help anyone in the current debate of opening action to load etc but that is not why I'm doing this.

[LeadFarmer74]

I mean I understand where you are headed but with the gas and bcg being in the way I don't see it as being super functional but now we have to think even more out of the box. I guess you could make it bolt action and then load when the bcg is locked back.

[DarkKing]

There isn't anything in the way. Essentially what goes into the port will be a plate that sits flush. Then the only thing reaching inside is gas tube extension that will extend the tube to ''tis regular position.

As for the bcg currently only when the bcg is in the empty position can it be loaded when it is in the rear and not at the breach.

[Lonestargrizzly]

I would rather not have my fingers in between the under tension bolt and the barrel thank you berry much

[DarkKing]

I would rather not have my fingers in between the under tension bolt and the barrel thank you berry much

lol I made a plunger for the end of the stripper clip so your fingers never go inside of it. And while I was playing around with it loading it by hand I kept bolt pulled back and locked with one hand :P....


Also I have WAY to much time on my hands.

[NorCal]

Any pictures of this monstrosity?

[TransplantTexan]

I would rather not have my fingers in between the under tension bolt and the barrel thank you berry much

Don't get a Garand

[russ69]

How about some pictures? I like thinking about a new way to do things if semis are banned altogether. The obvious action is a pump action AR. Somebody is already making that. Then the other is putting a spring in the bolt catch so the gun only fires one shot at a time and you push the bolt release to load the next round. Basically becoming a self ejecting single shot with a 10 round magazine.

[DarkKing]

Any pictures of this monstrosity?

I am concerned people may get hurt before I test it but.

Ill drag up some kind of generic disclaimer saying I'm not responsible for any injury or anything :P before posting.



Once I can test fire It I will post pictures though . Don't want to post something and it be a failure :{ That's like.... a cardinal Sin when designing something.





I will say it is one ugly mfkr

Currently using scope mounts to reinforce it hhahaha .


Also.... Need to set up some type of remote firing rig.....

[tonyxcom]

I think you can potentially solve the gas tube problem by making it shorter and the carrier key longer.

This however means the upper receiver needs a bigger gas tube hole, but you are already making a big modification to it with the top load hole so this detail seems trivial.

But what you end with with is an AR15 Garand of sorts.

[DarkKing]

I think you can potentially solve the gas tube problem by making it shorter and the carrier key longer.

This however means the upper receiver needs a bigger gas tube hole, but you are already making a big modification to it with the top load hole so this detail seems trivial.

But what you end with with is an AR15 Garand of sorts.

I don't have another BCG or carrier keys.


I will also have to order another gas tube. I only had an extra upper.

So as for the gas tube design there are options including yours.

They are.

1. Shorten gas tube and put an extension on the bottom of the insert for the cover of the port. This requires no BCG or carrier key modification I believe.

2. I can extend the carrier key as suggested.

3. I can split the gas tube to ride to the sides and mess with the carrier key as well.



The easiest seems to be just making some type of gas tube extension but depending on if i can order some more spare parts I will see about using your suggestion with making the carrier key longer.



I am lacking a spare gas tube and carrier keys. So off to google to find some cheap ones hopefully.

Also why not call it the AG-15

Advanced Garand 15.....

well technically the AG-1 but you know.

[tonyxcom]

Yeah I think you are well aware at this point that you will not only have to modify existing, but produce new parts.

[DarkKing]

Yeah I think you are well aware at this point that you will not only have to modify existing, but produce new parts.

That's Why I am getting additional parts.

Once I get more I can get a better idea of what needs to be done. But yes not everything can be modified. I can certainly add to parts but that is making new parts.

Might need to get a hold of someone with a CNC or 3d printer XD.

It is a really tight fit right now.

Basically I will have to cut the gas tube right above the breach so what ever i make will have to extend from there or make the key fit to it.