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  • #16
    Mitch
    Mostly Harmless
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Mar 2008
    • 6574

    Originally posted by Calguns77
    Not sure why they havent addressed this.
    Because "they" don't care. The only people adversely affected by these laws are law-abiding gun owners, and they can go **** themselves.
    Originally posted by cockedandglocked
    Getting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.

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    • #17
      Quiet
      retired Goon
      • Mar 2007
      • 30242

      Originally posted by SpeedRacerGST
      So once it is surrendered to LE, I'm assuming they hold it for 30-60 days and if no one claims it then you can take ownership? Then a background and a waiting period occurs? What are the chances of taking ownership of the firearm and how long would it take. Does LE contact the "owner" and say hey I have your gun come get it?
      If the firearms are not reported lost or stolen, then the finder can claim them.
      The finder needs to do a LEGR with CA DOJ, in order for the LE agency to return the firearms to the finder (no CA FFL dealer is involved).

      If the firearms were reported lost or stolen, then they are returned to the registered owner.

      If the firearms are prohibited, then they are destroyed.
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      "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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      • #18
        Quiet
        retired Goon
        • Mar 2007
        • 30242

        Originally posted by one9kilo
        Originally posted by Franklincollector
        Do a voluntary registration and hope for the best
        ^^This is what I would. lol
        Originally posted by sandiego67
        Wait for one of those police buy-backs and get yourself some gift cards.
        Doing any of that would violate CA laws.
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        "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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        • #19
          sandiego67
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2015
          • 669

          Originally posted by Quiet
          Doing any of that would violate CA laws.


          How would it violate a "No questions asked" policy?


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          • #20
            AceGirlsHusband
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 2651

            Originally posted by Franklincollector
            Do a voluntary registration and hope for the best
            If you have a LE friend, have him/her run the serial first. You do not want to execute a voluntary reg on a listed stolen firearm.

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            • #21
              Mitch
              Mostly Harmless
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Mar 2008
              • 6574

              Originally posted by sandiego67
              How would it violate a "No questions asked" policy?
              Because the OP taking possession of the firearms in the first place would be an illegal transfer.

              Once again, the OP is asking (I assume) what is legal, not what he can get away with.

              I'm surprised I have to explain these things.

              Well, maybe not so surprised.
              Originally posted by cockedandglocked
              Getting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.

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              • #22
                RTE
                Senior Member
                • May 2009
                • 1948

                I just got back from a locker auction....sadly didn't win.
                I didn't bring enough money ( cash only sale )
                It was much better than I expected, even had a box marked rifles.
                Here is a picture of the new regulation form.

                Last edited by RTE; 11-20-2017, 6:58 PM.

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                • #23
                  BigBronco also not a Cabinetguy
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 7076

                  I have personally done business with a Storage locker buyer that is now a prohibited person because he bought a locker with firearms and tried selling them. Most that I know illegally give them to a FFL that sells them out of state for them. I had one want to know if I was interested in a Tec9. I told him 30 years ago perhaps. Now no way. I do have a gun safe from a locker.

                  Ah the good old days. When I could buy a rifle at a garage sale. I still see rifles and etc at out of state swap-meets.
                  "Life is a long song" Jethro Tull

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                  • #24
                    hollowpoint67
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 1452

                    Originally posted by BigBronco
                    I have personally done business with a Storage locker buyer that is now a prohibited person because he bought a locker with firearms and tried selling them. Most that I know illegally give them to a FFL that sells them out of state for them. I had one want to know if I was interested in a Tec9. I told him 30 years ago perhaps. Now no way. I do have a gun safe from a locker.

                    Ah the good old days. When I could buy a rifle at a garage sale. I still see rifles and etc at out of state swap-meets.
                    If that FFL sells out of state don't they run serials on stolen/missing firearms nationally?

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                    • #25
                      RTE
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2009
                      • 1948

                      Well SpeedRacerGST
                      Whats the update...Inquiring minds wish to know.

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                      • #26
                        BigBronco also not a Cabinetguy
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 7076

                        Originally posted by hollowpoint67
                        If that FFL sells out of state don't they run serials on stolen/missing firearms nationally?
                        Firearms lost via storage locker auctions are not necessarily reported stolen. The owner may not be aware of his rights and just assumed they were legally sold.
                        "Life is a long song" Jethro Tull

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                        • #27
                          HighWildFree
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 2103

                          YEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPP!
                          "Bangarang Peter!"

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                          • #28
                            jazman
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 2140

                            Originally posted by RickD427
                            A firearm cannot be transferred through the sale of a storage unit. A lawful transfer must be done through an FFL. Firearms have a special legal status and there is a big difference between "owning" one and being able to accept the "transfer" of one.

                            You'll get a good example of this distinction if you purchase an out-of-state and off-roster handgun (which you can lawfully do) and then try to transfer possession of the handgun to yourself in California (which you cannot lawfully do unless you or the handgun is roster-exempt).

                            If you found a firearm within the contents of a storage unit that you purchased, and the value of the firearm is over $100, the law requires that you turn the weapon over to the law enforcement agency having jurisdiction (refer to Civil Code section 2080.1). Even if the value of the firearm is less than $100, you cannot transfer possession of it to yourself (Penal Code section 26500 (with certain exceptions, see section 26505 and particularly section 26505(c) which may be relevant to your situation).

                            If the agency is unable to return the firearm to it's owner, then you have the right to take possession of the firearm (through an FFL) from the agency (refer to Civil Code section 2080.2).

                            I'll let the JD's on this forum address the issue of whether you have a source of standing to compel the last owner of the firearm to transfer possession to you by virtue of your purchasing the contents of the storage locker.
                            Really well put, good knowledge here. Seems pretty clear that if LE cannot return the firearm you can use an FFL to transfer the gun to yourself. Clean and legal, the only way to go.
                            Originally posted by Kestryll
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