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  • SpeedRacerGST
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2016
    • 18

    Storage unit with firearms

    Does anyone know the process of registering/selling a firearm obtained from purchasing a storage unit.
  • #2
    RickD427
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jan 2007
    • 9266

    Originally posted by SpeedRacerGST
    Does anyone know the process of registering/selling a firearm obtained from purchasing a storage unit.
    A firearm cannot be transferred through the sale of a storage unit. A lawful transfer must be done through an FFL. Firearms have a special legal status and there is a big difference between "owning" one and being able to accept the "transfer" of one.

    You'll get a good example of this distinction if you purchase an out-of-state and off-roster handgun (which you can lawfully do) and then try to transfer possession of the handgun to yourself in California (which you cannot lawfully do unless you or the handgun is roster-exempt).

    If you found a firearm within the contents of a storage unit that you purchased, and the value of the firearm is over $100, the law requires that you turn the weapon over to the law enforcement agency having jurisdiction (refer to Civil Code section 2080.1). Even if the value of the firearm is less than $100, you cannot transfer possession of it to yourself (Penal Code section 26500 (with certain exceptions, see section 26505 and particularly section 26505(c) which may be relevant to your situation).

    If the agency is unable to return the firearm to it's owner, then you have the right to take possession of the firearm (through an FFL) from the agency (refer to Civil Code section 2080.2).

    I'll let the JD's on this forum address the issue of whether you have a source of standing to compel the last owner of the firearm to transfer possession to you by virtue of your purchasing the contents of the storage locker.
    If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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    • #3
      Quiet
      retired Goon
      • Mar 2007
      • 30242

      Originally posted by RickD427
      A firearm cannot be transferred through the sale of a storage unit. A lawful transfer must be done through an FFL. Firearms have a special legal status and there is a big difference between "owning" one and being able to accept the "transfer" of one.

      You'll get a good example of this distinction if you purchase an out-of-state and off-roster handgun (which you can lawfully do) and then try to transfer possession of the handgun to yourself in California (which you cannot lawfully do unless you or the handgun is roster-exempt).

      If you found a firearm within the contents of a storage unit that you purchased, and the value of the firearm is over $100, the law requires that you turn the weapon over to the law enforcement agency having jurisdiction (refer to Civil Code section 2080.1). Even if the value of the firearm is less than $100, you cannot transfer possession of it to yourself (Penal Code section 26500 (with certain exceptions, see section 26505 and particularly section 26505(c) which may be relevant to your situation).

      If the agency is unable to return the firearm to it's owner, then you have the right to take possession of the firearm (through an FFL) from the agency (refer to Civil Code section 2080.2).
      What he said.
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      "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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      • #4
        johnthomas
        Calguns Addict
        • Mar 2009
        • 7001

        If it is an antique, then it isn't a gun and no further action is required. The frame is the gun, not the parts on the gun. I am not sure the legality of parting it out and turning in the fame to police.
        Last edited by johnthomas; 12-26-2016, 1:21 PM.
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        • #5
          SpeedRacerGST
          Junior Member
          • Oct 2016
          • 18

          So once it is surrendered to LE, I'm assuming they hold it for 30-60 days and if no one claims it then you can take ownership? Then a background and a waiting period occurs? What are the chances of taking ownership of the firearm and how long would it take. Does LE contact the "owner" and say hey I have your gun come get it?

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          • #6
            MajorSideburns
            Senior Member
            • May 2013
            • 1722

            What type of firearms are they? Like someone else wrote, certain types like blackpowder and replicas of old guns are exempt from going through a FFL dealer

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            • #7
              SpeedRacerGST
              Junior Member
              • Oct 2016
              • 18

              Hasn't been any blackpowder firearms so far mostly current .22 and a Shotgun so far. Just curious because I have a safe that I'm in process of getting the code for. And a large amount of misc firearm items throughout the unit. I'm just curious to once the safe is is open...say there is a Shotgun and a pistol in there...what are my options to keep them.

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              • #8
                RTE
                Senior Member
                • May 2009
                • 1948

                Pm sent and taged for later.....i love a good safe story.
                Nice hit.

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                • #9
                  dieselpower
                  Banned
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 11471

                  Originally posted by johnthomas
                  If it is an antique, then it isn't a gun and no further action is required. The frame is the gun, not the parts on the gun. I am not sure the legality of parting it out and turning in the fame to police.
                  that would be up to a court. I seriously doubt a court would allow you to disassemble a gun and only give the serialized part to the owner.

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                  • #10
                    Mr. Beretta
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 6614

                    Originally posted by SpeedRacerGST
                    Hasn't been any blackpowder firearms so far mostly current .22 and a Shotgun so far. Just curious because I have a safe that I'm in process of getting the code for. And a large amount of misc firearm items throughout the unit. I'm just curious to once the safe is is open...say there is a Shotgun and a pistol in there...what are my options to keep them.

                    Your options don't change.

                    Read RickD427's post again.

                    Good Luck.

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                    • #11
                      Franklincollector
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 931

                      Do a voluntary registration and hope for the best

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                      • #12
                        one9kilo
                        Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 301

                        Originally posted by Franklincollector
                        Do a voluntary registration and hope for the best
                        ^^This is what I would. lol

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                        • #13
                          sandiego67
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 669

                          Wait for one of those police buy-backs and get yourself some gift cards.

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                          • #14
                            Calguns77
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2016
                            • 836

                            Originally posted by RickD427
                            A firearm cannot be transferred through the sale of a storage unit. A lawful transfer must be done through an FFL. Firearms have a special legal status and there is a big difference between "owning" one and being able to accept the "transfer" of one.

                            You'll get a good example of this distinction if you purchase an out-of-state and off-roster handgun (which you can lawfully do) and then try to transfer possession of the handgun to yourself in California (which you cannot lawfully do unless you or the handgun is roster-exempt).

                            If you found a firearm within the contents of a storage unit that you purchased, and the value of the firearm is over $100, the law requires that you turn the weapon over to the law enforcement agency having jurisdiction (refer to Civil Code section 2080.1). Even if the value of the firearm is less than $100, you cannot transfer possession of it to yourself (Penal Code section 26500 (with certain exceptions, see section 26505 and particularly section 26505(c) which may be relevant to your situation).

                            If the agency is unable to return the firearm to it's owner, then you have the right to take possession of the firearm (through an FFL) from the agency (refer to Civil Code section 2080.2).

                            I'll let the JD's on this forum address the issue of whether you have a source of standing to compel the last owner of the firearm to transfer possession to you by virtue of your purchasing the contents of the storage locker.
                            This system is really broken. Even if you could take the owner to court and force him to transfer to you the amount if time and money probably isnt worth it.

                            Not sure why they havent addressed this. A form submitted declaring the firearms and and serials so the doj and atf can run them and make sure they arent stolen property, and registrring them in your name should be pretty simple.

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                            • #15
                              glockman19
                              Banned
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 10486

                              Congrats on the find.

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