Not Bolting Down a Safe

[sigstroker]

Use 1/4" diameter bolts so you leave smaller holes through the carpet.
If you can't bolt it down then put as much weight as possible. When I was preparing to move, I put my safe in the garage so that I could refinish the floor in the room my safe had been in. I put bulk bullets and steel weights in, as much as I could fit. My son and I tried to lean it back to get a dolly under it, no way.

You're doing it wrong. Get your legs into it. I can rock back 400+ pounds by myself.

From my life experience as both a renter and a property manager I can say that I have never seen a clause like that specifically written in a lease agreement. That said, the simple fact that they took the time to add it tells me you are going to have a wonderful time trying to get your deposit back no matter what you do.

I have. In the SF Bay area. They even mention it in the handout info you get when you tour the property.

If the floor is wood/laminate etc., I would think about not bolting it to the floor. The holes will be very difficult to disguise and wood floor repairs are not cheap. To that note bolting through the carpet IS an option, but if you have a particularly heavy safe sitting there for a year or so, the carpet may not be able to be fluffed back up. Once it’s matted down really badly they could say it is “damaged”.

Unlikely the carpet wouldn't fluff back up. I lived in an apartment for 23 years. When I moved in I planted a bunch of boxes on the floor and never got around to moving them until I moved out. The carpet looked literally brand new. It was a great source of amusement for the maintenance crew in that complex. They were remodeling, which is why I had to leave, and they tore out carpet that was in the same condition as the day it was installed in 1992.

[cnj]

When a lease agreement clearly states "no holes to be drilled anywhere", how does a person secure a safe? To be legal, is it a requirement that a safe be bolted down? Thanks in advance.

Why would someone sign a lease agreement that had a clause in it that they couldn't live with???

Alot of bad (or at the very least unethical) advice in this thread. If the lease says "no holes to be drilled", then don't drill any holes! What if you drill into a post tension slab and sever a tension cable? Load it up with weight and be done with it.

[cnj]

Renters.
Scum Bags, the lot of them!
Get your own damned house if you want card Blanche to screw stuff up!

This!

[downdiver2]

Not likely but possible it is a post tensioned slab. That would be a good reason for the no holes drilled clause.


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That what be gnarly and worst case scenario. Could you imagine

[L84CABO]

Put the safe in a carpeted area and just bolt it down. When you eventually remove the safe, the landlord won't even notice the bolt was there.

Careful with this. The weight of a safe could leave a noticeable indentation or perhaps a noticeable fade patch...and then closer inspection may reveal the holes. Make sure you're prepared for the consequences if you decide to proceed.

[myk]

Or if you're unlucky like me you'll have a slab leak that requires them tearing up the carpet and concrete to fix the leak. I'm still waiting for my landlord's reaction to the holes in his property...

[DrjonesUSA]

1) Talk to the landlord about it; hopefully he'd be amenable to accommodating you.

2) Anyone saying ANYTHING along the lines of "don't bolt it / no need / the weight will keep you safe" are completely, 100% full of crap & have no clue what they're talking about.



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[Toxicxk23]

My apartment allows holes to be drilled and it won't be taken out of deposit when moving out. I asked them specifically about putting holes in walls and stuff and they said they're cool with it. If you're really that concerned about losing your security deposit (or a portion of it) I would just ask them. Some times it's worth the cost to be extra safe (no pun intended).

[Ross]

What's wrong with a couple cases of 9mm, .45, and .223 placed inside to weigh it down?

Hurculean as a couple rocket surgeons might be, they are going to have a very rough time moving a 700 ls safe with 200 - 400 ls more of ammo, plus the guns and whatever else is in there.

[Den60]

Can you bolt it to a large steel plate that would make it difficult to get through a doorway?

[Den60]

1) Talk to the landlord about it; hopefully he'd be amenable to accommodating you.

2) Anyone saying ANYTHING along the lines of "don't bolt it / no need / the weight will keep you safe" are completely, 100% full of crap & have no clue what they're talking about.



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Might want to make sure the landlord is pro gun before doing so.

[Pingo Ringo]

1) Talk to the landlord about it; hopefully he'd be amenable to accommodating you.

2) Anyone saying ANYTHING along the lines of "don't bolt it / no need / the weight will keep you safe" are completely, 100% full of crap & have no clue what they're talking about.


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Is there any amount of weight that you would consider safe to not have to bolt it down?

[Win231]

Bolting a safe is also much safer. It's amazing how easily a safe will tip when the door is open.

[Mayor McRifle]

You just need a bigger safe.

[Bullitt01]

I manage apartments to rent. You put a hole in a wood floor, that goes out of your deposit. Put a hole in the wall, the fix goes out of the deposit.

At the end of the day, what's it worth to you?

What is the fee 'per hole'?