"Cop Killer" hand gun rounds

[harmoniums]

So you can t buy 5.7mm AP rounds as they defeat Level IIIa body armor and as a result are considered cop killer rounds.
Fair enough,

BUT what about 7.62x25mm? these round seem really hot and according to this they defeat kevlar helmets:

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot29.htm

how is it they were never made illegal? are they considered a rifle round as they fit in ppshs?

[sorensen440]

I think its all about if they were designed to be AP

[biscuitninja]

Well i'm betting it is because they are not steel cored rounds. But having a small little round come SMOKING out of a small pistol doesn't mean it can't overpenetrate.

-bix

[Vin496]

So you can t buy 5.7mm AP rounds as they defeat Level IIIa body armor and as a result are considered cop killer rounds.
Fair enough,

BUT what about 7.62x25mm? these round seem really hot and according to this they defeat kevlar helmets:

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot29.htm

how is it they were never made illegal? are tehy considered a rifle round as teh fit in ppshs?

I don't think the 5.7 AP round is actually illegal, FN just chooses not to sale it to civilians, based on the bad press it gets, it pops up from time to time for sale, but be prepared to spend about $500+ for a box of 50 rounds.

[Casual Observer]

There are alot of handgun rounds that will go through a cop's vest.

But designing a round and slapping the "armor-piercing" label on it is sure to draw more attention.

[SwissFluCase]

If someone carries a 5.7 with the intent to kill cops, they probably have a mindset that is more dangerous than any pistol round.

Regards,


SwissFluCase

[NuGunner]

shoot if that were the case they wouldn't be selling 5.56/.223 or 7.62

I've also "heard" that .22 can go through a vest, something about distribution of kinetic energy...the person lost me after a while...but yea, never did any follow up on it...if anyone has an answer It'd be much appreciated.

[gotgunz]

BUT what about 7.62x25mm? these round seem really hot......
how is it they were never made illegal?

Because nobody ever made this info known; either to the whackos in Sacramento or on a public forum.....




until now.

[Turbinator]

Cop killer rounds are any rounds that kill police officers. Period. Could be .22lr, could be a BB gun, could be 9mm. Sad that the term even exists, though.

Turby

[SwissFluCase]

Cop killer rounds are any rounds that kill police officers. Period. Could be .22lr, could be a BB gun, could be 9mm. Sad that the term even exists, though.

Turby

It's a slur.

Regards,


SwissFluCase

[AaronHorrocks]

Because nobody ever made this info known; either to the whackos in Sacramento or on a public forum.....




until now.

Exactly! Shut the heck up about my supersonic soviet rounds, comrade!

[Hopi]

kill this thread before Allison gets any ideas....

[MrSlippyFist]

BUT what about 7.62x25mm? these round seem really hot and according to this they defeat kevlar helmets:

Kevlar helmets are designed to deflect shrapnel and everything smaller than 9mm parabellum. So any rifle round or pistol round more powerful than 9mm will defeat a kevlar helmet.

[Fate]

Kevlar helmets are designed to deflect shrapnel and everything smaller than 9mm parabellum. So any rifle round or pistol round more powerful than 9mm will defeat a kevlar helmet.

Actually some of the modern versions of helmets can defeat a rifle round. Watching the Military channel about a year ago, saw a profile on a helmet company that test fired a .308 round into the helmet at 50 yards as a demonstration for the show. Helmet contained the bullet with zero penetration or interior deformation. Nice to see innovation that works.

[MrSlippyFist]

Actually some of the modern versions of helmets can defeat a rifle round. Watching the Military channel about a year ago, saw a profile on a helmet company that test fired a .308 round into the helmet at 50 yards as a demonstration for the show. Helmet contained the bullet with zero penetration or interior deformation. Nice to see innovation that works.

Yes, but the PASGT helmet used widely by ours and others suck (and the one in the link by the OP). Ask me how I know.