30rds to 10/30

[Sam .223]

i have a few 30 rd mags i am planning to install blocks in so i can keep them, my question is do i really need to epoxy the floor plate or rivet the blocks in, isn't assembling the mags with the blocks inside a permanent install since you have to tear apart the mag to remove them?

[MajorSideburns]

Would you feel comfortable defending yourself in court by claiming to the judge and jury that the blocks were permanent because they require you to press a dimple and slide off the floorplate to take the blocks out?

[DannyInSoCal]

You answered your own questions

Is installing blocks that can be removed "permanent"...?

[gixxnrocket]

Back to the parts vs magazine argument.

Is a disassembled magazine a magazine or just parts? (holds zero cartridges)


If a 10 round magazine requires disassembly in order to "change" capacity, does it not first need to become parts?

Therefore if one was to assemble said magazine in an illegal configuration it would be a crime correct?

Likewise there is no wording in the law to specify what "Permanent" means.

There is nothing in the law that says the magazine must be destroyed in order to disassemble or that the floor plate must be glued, screwed, pinned, rivited, etc.

Say one was to drop empty magazines on the ground and the body filled with rock or mud. Should that person be a criminal for disassembling the magazine for cleaning or should that person be compelled to throw the magazine away and just buy a new one.



Just my $.02, running legal 30rd mags in featureless rifles without a bullet button until Jan 1.

Permanent is in functioning configuration, since there is no constructive possession (yet)


-IANAL, nor do I play on on tv

[BigPimping]

After January 1st, the only thing I'm going to have visible is 10 round dedicated mags.

[M1A Rifleman]

You answered your own questions

Is installing blocks that can be removed "permanent"...?

Nothing is permanent as few tools can revert anything. Two 10 round mags can be converted to a 20 rounder with tools.

[xxINKxx]

PROP 63 IS NOT MY LAW

[The Fugitive]

PROP 63 IS NOT MY LAW

LOL

[connor305]

pretty sure prop 63 ended 10/30s

[bigbully]

pretty sure prop 63 ended 10/30s

Prop 63 does not change the definition of a "large capacity magazine".

Please read the magazine part of the bill.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showpost.php?p=19131873&postcount=11

and the existing (unchanging) definition in the penal code:

16740. As used in this part, "large-capacity magazine" means any
ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10
rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
(a) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it
cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
(b) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
(c) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action
firearm.

If you are not completely sure then it's better to post in the form of a question. You don't want to inadvertently spread FUD.

[connor305]

Please tell us why ?

Isn't there a clause in prop 63 that explicitly states that all "high" capacity Magazines and any 10/30 end magazines are thereby banned under the law without any kind of grandfathering in. I mean, by all means, do what you want with them, but be careful.

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[bigbully]

Isn't there a clause in prop 63 that explicitly states that all "high" capacity Magazines and any 10/30 end magazines are thereby banned under the law without any kind of grandfathering in. I mean, by all means, do what you want with them, but be careful.

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No there is not.

Here is the link again:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showpost.php?p=19131873&postcount=11

Please read the bill.

[connor305]

No there is not.

Here is the link again:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showpost.php?p=19131873&postcount=11

Please read the bill.

Woopsies, posted my reply before reading your post to mine. My fault, sorry for the faulty info folks. Thanks for the correction.

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[OlderThanDirt]

There are some serious problems with the new magazine laws. For those with standard capacity magazines, investing in a 50 Beowulf or similar upper receiver assembly, some aftermarket followers and an engraving tool is not a bad idea. Ten round magazines for these calibers look very familiar and scary.

[Lumpia is sarap!®]

Is everyone customizing their 10+ magazines?

How would that work? Shorten the spring, add a block and epoxy.

Or just destroy, surrender and purchase 10 rounders.