Mag lock idea

[Junkie]

I came up with an idea for a mag lock that I haven't found elsewhere. I don't want to put the amount of time/money it'd take to even patent it, let alone produce it, but hopefully someone is willing to produce it. I'd rather someone make it than nobody...

The idea could work for ARs, as well as most other guns that easily open up/fold and use a button type mag release (Sub2000 for example). For some guns (Sub2000), I'm not sure it's any worse than a current BB.

Attach a piece to the upper that physically blocks the mag release button. When you open the gun up, it moves out of the way and you can drop the mag. Obviously it'd need some stiffening ribs, probably that will butt up against the receiver so that you can't just push on/flex the entire block and have it press on the release.

Here are a couple cardboard concepts on an AR (currently featureless) and a Sub2000. In both cases it would attach to the handguard.











Does this seem like a workable idea?

[IVC]

That's pretty cool and "outside the box" thinking. I'd like to see someone implement it.

The problem, of course, is that the legislators want to ban "assault weapons" so they'll keep outlawing any solution that catches their attention. Don't forget that the (vetoed) SB 374 (IIRC) pretty much went away from the whole concept of features and magazines and went straight to "any semi-automatic rifle is an assault weapon." That's where I see the future of CA legislation...

[IVC]

Another reason I like your solution is that one can keep a virgin upper ready for a SHTF scenario and remain completely legal as long as the upper is not attached.

[Junkie]

I agree that anything we think of and implement will most likely be banned at some point, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't figure out new options.

I would expect 2 bolts to be enough to attach it and prevent it from rotating. When you're having fun out of state, it could easily be removed.

[munkeeboi]

great outside the box thinking.....but food for thought...if you can remove the device without opening the action (unbolt or unscrew from handguard/frame), does that mean you can technically drop the mag without opening the action?

[Junkie]

I suppose it depends on the definition of "disassembly of the action". I would removing a couple screws to count, but who knows... if it doesn't, it could be riveted or something.

I'd certainly talk to a gun lawyer before marketing it if I was going to do so, for that reason (and others).

[deckhandmike]

All this featureless stuff is going to be a waste of time. The next move will be to ban semi auto center fire rifles.

[Junkie]

All this featureless stuff is going to be a waste of time. The next move will be to ban semi auto center fire rifles.

This is fixed magazine, not featureless.

[numpty]

Whoever patents and uses this thing needs to give Junkie royalties.

Great idea. What about the same concept, but a piece that is attached to the dust cover mounts in some manner (or some area around that) to reduce the size of the thing?

[numpty]

All this featureless stuff is going to be a waste of time. The next move will be to ban semi auto center fire rifles.

While I agree with their end goal, I don't find it a waste of time.

It might also be helpful down the line in court when it can be illustrated that all of these countless laws simply chased the compliant solutions in an effort to make them illegal. It may illuminate their true intentions, to ultimately ban the guns.

I don't know.

[Creampuff]

I think the advantage of the ARMaglock, is that you lock the magazine on the lower without having to make custom figurations for so many different types of handguards.

https://www.armaglock.com/

Not trying to be a naysayer here because we should continue to be resourceful and smarter than the idiots writing these laws.

[greensoup]

On an AR you might be able to have it wrap around the front pin such that the piece could not be removed without removing the entire upper. This would seem to qualify.

My guess to prototype it use kydex or there are some low temperature plastics that can be used for molding.

If you are in San Diego, you can also access 3D printing for free at the public library.

[IVC]

great outside the box thinking.....but food for thought...if you can remove the device without opening the action (unbolt or unscrew from handguard/frame), does that mean you can technically drop the mag without opening the action?

It can be screwed in from the inside.

[Rodell]

It would work best if made from tissue paper. Just sayin'.

[AreWeFree]

I don't think this works legally because it doesn't modify the firearm (lower receiver) to be compliant with a "fixed magazine."

The firearm still has features, so once the upper is removed you are left with an "assault weapon."