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  • #31
    ScottsBad
    Progressives Suck!
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • May 2009
    • 5610

    Originally posted by dwalker
    MPro7 is probably not greased lighting, as it does not oxidize and corrode aluminum like greased lightning does if it is not rinsed right off.
    I'm thinking about doing a test with a stripped 80% to see. I think it is a matter of the concentration too, but the make up could be different.

    I think Battlefield Vegas uses Simple Green in their washers. Which tells me that you could use it instead. There is also a more powerful version of Simple Green I think.
    sigpicC'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps.

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    • #32
      ScottsBad
      Progressives Suck!
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • May 2009
      • 5610

      Originally posted by WMG
      What exactly is .....Greased Lighting?
      I think somebody should tell me ..............
      ..... or I'm going to stab you in the face with a soldering iron..............
      It's just a strong degreaser, like a stronger version of Simple Green, but may have a different formulation that could oxidize aluminum.
      sigpicC'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps.

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      • #33
        ScottsBad
        Progressives Suck!
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • May 2009
        • 5610

        Originally posted by Calguns77
        Meh i guess its just one of the negatives of being biodegradeable, i have heard some people who claim they been using the same bottle for over 5 years and it works just fine, im just not willing to gamble on an $80 bottle of solvent.

        Also from their website:

        I've had the M-Pro7 for quite awhile and it seems to have thickened?

        The change in appearance and thickness are from two things:

        1. Evaporation: M-Pro7 Gun Cleaner over time does lose some solvents and surfactants to evaporation. Exposure to the air can also lower the pH.

        2. Carbon: MPro7 Gun Cleaner is an alkali or base solution. Carbon fouling is acidic in nature. Over time, even with filtering, the carbon lowers the pH value of the gun cleaner. Once the pH falls below 8, the cleaner needs to be replaced.
        1. Well, I don't leave my jug open. I refill an old 32oz. spray bottle of Hoppe's Elite. I believe they are assuming it is being used in a parts washer or ultra-sonic cleaner where it would be open to the air. I mean what kind of crazy guy (me) would buy a whole gallon of cleaner if he didn't have an ultrasonic cleaner, right? LOL

        2. This is a good indication that they are talking about a parts cleaner or ultra-sonic where the cleaner is recycled over and over. And not a guy who just sprays it on his parts and does not reuse it.

        Besides its $60 not $80.

        I doubt there is much problem keeping it longer than two years in a jug.
        sigpicC'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps.

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        • #34
          Calguns77
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2016
          • 836

          Originally posted by ScottsBad
          1. Well, I don't leave my jug open. I refill an old 32oz. spray bottle of Hoppe's Elite. I believe they are assuming it is being used in a parts washer or ultra-sonic cleaner where it would be open to the air. I mean what kind of crazy guy (me) would buy a whole gallon of cleaner if he didn't have an ultrasonic cleaner, right? LOL

          2. This is a good indication that they are talking about a parts cleaner or ultra-sonic where the cleaner is recycled over and over. And not a guy who just sprays it on his parts and does not reuse it.

          Besides its $60 not $80.

          I doubt there is much problem keeping it longer than two years in a jug.
          Hmm all i see it listed for is $69 on multiple sites. Though slick guns does show it was on sale for $54 on amazon before. Im sure it would be fine, i just dont use enough to justify the risk as i prefer Ballistol and only use m-pro 7 in places i dont want lube and even then i usually just use alcohol these days.

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          • #35
            frank8097
            Banned
            • Feb 2010
            • 814

            Originally posted by maggie06
            And a dab of bearing grease on slide

            Sent from my SM-N915V using Tapatalk
            interesting. although i never used grease, i use to always give a quick wipe, with a rag lightly saturated with hoppes oil, to every part that has metal to metal contact, once my gun was clean already.

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            • #36
              dwalker
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2014
              • 2714

              Originally posted by frank8097
              interesting. although i never used grease, i use to always give a quick wipe, with a rag lightly saturated with hoppes oil, to every part that has metal to metal contact, once my gun was clean already.
              If you use a good grease, like the Fiske Brothers Lubriplate, Superlube, or Lucas Outdoor Gun Grease, on the slide rails it will decrease wear and improve function. How much you need to use is something learned through experience and based on gun type. There are some other areas I use gun grease as well, like some trigger bows, pins, etc.
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              • #37
                A324
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 1041

                Been using Ballistol for years.

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                • #38
                  Dnele928
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 685

                  I love the smell of Hoppe's #9 in the morning. Reminds me of...VICTORY!

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                  • #39
                    HighWildFree
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 2103

                    I'd avoid Gun Scrubber, only cleaner I've been given strict directions NOT to use, from the manufacturer.
                    "Bangarang Peter!"

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                    • #40
                      bazineta
                      Senior Member
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jun 2015
                      • 647

                      The smell of #9 reminds me only of good things.

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                      • #41
                        WMG
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 1159

                        Originally posted by ScottsBad
                        It's just a strong degreaser, like a stronger version of Simple Green, but may have a different formulation that could oxidize aluminum.
                        thanks , I have used simple green for cleaning smoke poles ... it worked well , just didn't see the point most of the time though.
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                        • #42
                          jazman
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 2140

                          Originally posted by A324
                          Been using Ballistol for years.

                          Yep, I like Ballistol a lot. Use it on all my guns, including wood stocks. Safe and sane!
                          Originally posted by Kestryll
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                          • #43
                            A324
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 1041

                            Originally posted by Dnele928
                            I love the smell of Hoppe's #9 in the morning. Reminds me of...VICTORY!
                            Today's Hoppe's 9 has a slightly different scent from what I remember from decades ago. I think the original formula has been changed somewhat probably to satisfy the EPA or similar agency.

                            Of course it could be me...old age does have a way of affecting one's sense of smell.

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                            • #44
                              frank8097
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 814

                              Originally posted by dwalker
                              If you use a good grease, like the Fiske Brothers Lubriplate, Superlube, or Lucas Outdoor Gun Grease, on the slide rails it will decrease wear and improve function. How much you need to use is something learned through experience and based on gun type. There are some other areas I use gun grease as well, like some trigger bows, pins, etc.
                              Thanks for the tips, will keep em in mind.

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                              • #45
                                Calguns77
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2016
                                • 836

                                Originally posted by jazman
                                Yep, I like Ballistol a lot. Use it on all my guns, including wood stocks. Safe and sane!
                                Yeah ballistol is great for wood. Which reminds me i had a very negative experience with m-pro7 when cleaning up an old rifle, it took the gloss finish right off the stock where it contacted the metal reciever i was cleaning. After that i switched to ballistol exclusively whenever cleaning a firearm with wood, obviously ymmv. Also i think ballistol smells great... but im pretty sure im the only one.

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