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  • OutlawDon
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 3138

    Question regarding SFPD reserve officer...for a friend....

    A good friend of mine wants to volunteer and join the San Francisco Police Department Reserve Officer Unit in the near future. He asked me today if they are allowed high capacity mags (19+1) and also what sidearms are they issue. Anyone knows? Thanks.
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    Bad Voodoo
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    • Jan 2007
    • 2884

    I thought SFPD employed NERF guns.

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    • #3
      DedEye
      Calguns Addict
      • Nov 2006
      • 8655

      Originally posted by OutlawDon
      A good friend of mine wants to volunteer and join the San Francisco Police Department Reserve Officer Unit in the near future. He asked me today if they are allowed high capacity mags (19+1) and also what sidearms are they issue. Anyone knows? Thanks.
      Don't know about reserve officers, but apparently Sig is the new standard issue for SFPD. Hi-caps are allowed.
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      • #4
        gwl
        • May 2007
        • 1328

        SIG P226 and SIG P229 chambered in .40S&W is the duty handgun for SFPD Officers and I'm 99.9% sure it's the same for their Reserve Officers (gotta leave a slight margin for error).
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        • #5
          Salty
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 573

          What exactly does a reserve officer do?

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          • #6
            leelaw
            Junior Member
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            • Oct 2005
            • 10445

            Originally posted by Bad Voodoo
            I thought SFPD employed NERF guns.
            No, but they do make use of a tactical PSTFC (Please Stop, and Thanks For Cooperating) team, trained with the latest verbal command equipment.

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            • #7
              WokMaster1
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              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Mar 2006
              • 5436

              Originally posted by OutlawDon
              A good friend of mine wants to volunteer and join the San Francisco Police Department Reserve Officer Unit in the near future. He asked me today if they are allowed high capacity mags (19+1) and also what sidearms are they issue. Anyone knows? Thanks.
              You will be issued a Department-owned firearm, custom fitted protective vest, crowd control equipment, leather gear, and other related equipment. If a Reserve Officer regularly meets his/her monthly obligation of service, that Reserve Officer will be allowed to request a voucher for additional uniforms (on an annual basis).

              OP, just confirmed it with my beat officer. Sig 40 caliber with standard capacity, not high capacity. Only anti gunners use that term.
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              • #8
                WokMaster1
                Part time Emperor
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                • Mar 2006
                • 5436

                Originally posted by Salty
                What exactly does a reserve officer do?
                grab coffee, lunch, wash cop cars, etc.

                Nah! they actually get to do a lot of stuff cos technically you're a full blown LEO & free labor. If you have specialized skills, they will also tap that. Boat driver, scuba, instructor, desk killer,
                "Good friends, good food & good wine. Anything else is just a waste of soy sauce.":)

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                • #9
                  Salty
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 573

                  I read the website, and wow, they sure do ask a lot of you (hours wise) considering how much you get paid (nothing) in comparison to full time officers.

                  This might sound petty, but do they get to CCW while off duty?

                  Also, how do full time officers treat / view them?

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                  • #10
                    Bad Voodoo
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                    • Jan 2007
                    • 2884

                    Originally posted by leelaw
                    No, but they do make use of a tactical PSTFC (Please Stop, and Thanks For Cooperating) team, trained with the latest verbal command equipment.
                    Gotcha. Those silly city administrators. Just what bleeding-edge advancements in tactical crime avoidance will they think of next?

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                    • #11
                      Decoligny
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 10615

                      Originally posted by WokMaster1
                      http://www.sfgov.org/site/police_ind...d=21348#dutiesleather gear, and other related equipment. If a Reserve Officer regularly meets his/her monthly obligation of service, that Reserve Officer will be allowed to request a voucher for additional uniforms (on an annual basis).
                      Wouldn't be San Francisco if they didn't issue you "leather gear"

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                      • #12
                        eltee
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 897

                        FYI, SFPD does not have "designated" or "super" level one status reserve officers. Super level ones are granted full peace officer status, 24/7, and full carry off duty permission. SFPD reserves are not allowed to carry off duty (the ID card is so stamped on the front).

                        However, SFPD reserves have come a long way from the days of parade security, Golden Gate Park parking enforcement, etc. They no longer have to wear different color uniforms or wear other obvious visual designators indicating they are reserves. Back in the day when they did look clearly different than the regulars, it was a sign to badguys saying, "Hit me first."

                        They are now assigned patrol and special duty units and work alongside their paid brother officers. Once I was booking someone at the county jail and an unmarked SFPD unit rolled into the sallyport. Four guys in jumpsuits armed to the teeth fall out and the 2nd unmarked pulled up with 2 guys similarly dressed with 2 suspects in tow. We started chatting and, to my surprise, there were 3 reserves in the group. Same everything except for a barely noticeable "R" on their star and the series number of their badges. I chatted with these guys a bit, they were all on the fugitive task force. Pretty cool work for a reserve.

                        There is a historical bit of sibling rivalry now and again between regulars and reserves, but that is something that will never disappear. It is like the sibling rivalry that occurs from different agencies with overlapping jurisdiction. Nothing serious, but it exists. Even though some reserves may have more training than a regular, the reserves sometimes get treated like 2nd class cops...like how regular Army troopers sometimes treat Army reserves or National Guardsmen.

                        Some guys I know have joined reserve units because they have good jobs and would take a huge pay cut to become career cops. My wife works with an MD who put himself through the academy to join as a reserve officer on the SWAT team, he is the tactical medic. Cool.

                        Anyway, there are SFPD members on this site who can probably give you more detailed info.
                        Last edited by eltee; 01-22-2009, 9:52 PM.

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                        • #13
                          DRM6000
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 5773

                          i too have been thinking about becoming a sfpd reserve.

                          i might grow to like the idea of getting my butt kicked for free j/k

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                          • #14
                            homerm14
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 630

                            You will be issued a Sig 226 .40 with 3 12 round magazines and all other necessary equipment. You will work, and I stress work. It is not a cake walk. The reserves that work out of my station work hard and are respected for that. They handle a lot of calls for service that we are some times to busy to get to. The only thing they don't do is handle serious reports such as homicides, stabbings, shootings and such. You will usually work with at least one other reserve officer and a full time officer. Some times you will just be paired up with a full time officer. Rarely you will work by yourself or with another reserve officer. Any other questions feel free to ask.

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                            • #15
                              doughboy334
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 2019

                              What are the PT requirements, if any? Couldn't find it....

                              I DON’T HAVE THE REQUIRED TRAINING. HOW DO I OBTAIN IT?



                              Most Community Colleges that have an Administration of Justice Program sponsor the necessary training. There are several institutions within the nine Bay Area Counties, including City College of San Francisco.
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