I Give Up

[ScottsBad]

I'm envious. Congrats on your move.

[Cokebottle]

Good for you!

Except...you won't be able to ski and surf on the same day - as if anybody actually does that.

LOL...

I made a pair of 1x3s that I had sanded one end to a point, and used nails in the sides to tie my feet to them.
Waxed them up with a candle.

Made it about 15ft down a small slope at the side of the road before the nose dug in.

Tried board surfing... couldn't balance well enough, even on a 12ft logger, to sit upright. Used to body surf all the time, but other than scuba diving, I've not been in the ocean in 35 years.

[roostersgt]

I'm sure there were many other reasons, other than our ever restricting firearms laws, that made up your mind. Moving to Ohio for those reasons alone makes no sense. Have you ever been to Ohio? I have, recently. Nice zoo, but that;'s about it. For a short term stay it wouldn't be bad at all, but for an extended length of time? I don't think so. It's too far removed from salt water, fresh seafood, good ethnic food and significant mountains for my tastes. I wish you well in your move. Each state I've lived in has had it's challenges. You're in for some culture shock, for sure.

[myk]

I'm sure there were many other reasons, other than our ever restricting firearms laws, that made up your mind. Moving to Ohio for those reasons alone makes no sense. Have you ever been to Ohio? I have, recently. Nice zoo, but that;'s about it. For a short term stay it wouldn't be bad at all, but for an extended length of time? I don't think so. It's too far removed from salt water, fresh seafood, good ethnic food and significant mountains for my tastes. I wish you well in your move. Each state I've lived in has had it's challenges. You're in for some culture shock, for sure.

Leaving a state or a place that doesn't support the 2nd Amendment is an EXCELLENT reason to leave. Think about it: if this hypothetical place doesn't honor or acknowledge this Constitutional right, what else about your life as a law abiding citizen of America isn't important to them?

The 2nd Amendment and the guns and ammo life is more than just going to the range and "plinking." If shooting is just a way to piss away money and time for you that's fine, but to others the RKBA represents exactly why we're happy to be living in America in the first place. Anything that infringes on the 2nd Amendment or the Constitution and the Bill of Rights is unacceptable. It's sad that people don't really take their rights very seriously, and are more worried about the scenery, weather and food available than their freedom...

[roostersgt]

Leaving for a state like "Ohio", for only those 2A reasons, seems a bit insane to me. Oregon, Washington, Florida, Texas, or any of the "red" gulf states fits more into my lifestyle than Ohio. Have you been to Ohio? I was there for a week in June. Saw much of the northern part of the state. Ohio may be a perfect place for him and his family, I certainly hope it is, but unfortunately for me, California has everything I could ever want, sans ever restricting laws and taxes. I like high pay, good food and excellent hunting, fishing and outdoor sporting opportunities. There are no crabs in Ohio, no fresh oysters, clams, or fresh caught seafood in Ohio for me to catch.

The 2A is important, but it doesn't dictate where I must live, work or play.

[roostersgt]

That's a very short season too. I spend two weeks in Wyoming every year to shoot mulies, white tails and antelope, but I wouldn't want to live there, for what is only available a few weeks out of the year. I'm not that "hard core" a big game hunter. Oh, and antlers don't taste that great, no matter how you cook them, or process them.

[ExtremeX]

Very nice OP! Congrats.

I am also in a position to move right now, and we recently road-trip visited Oregon, Nevada, Arizona, Idaho, Utah, and Wyoming... Since then it has been a topic of discussion with my lady.

I thought the hardest part would be figuring out where, I really like Utah, but its pulling up the socks and packing it all up which is really the hard part... lot more than just firearms influence my decision making... friends and family is the biggest one for me.

Good luck on the move.

[highpower]

I'm sure there were many other reasons, other than our ever restricting firearms laws, that made up your mind. Moving to Ohio for those reasons alone makes no sense. Have you ever been to Ohio? I have, recently. Nice zoo, but that;'s about it. For a short term stay it wouldn't be bad at all, but for an extended length of time? I don't think so. It's too far removed from salt water, fresh seafood, good ethnic food and significant mountains for my tastes. I wish you well in your move. Each state I've lived in has had it's challenges. You're in for some culture shock, for sure.

I would never trade freedom for crabs. Some people (like you) wear their chains lightly, others, like the OP, do not. A gilded cage is still a cage.

[chris]

I'm sure there were many other reasons, other than our ever restricting firearms laws, that made up your mind. Moving to Ohio for those reasons alone makes no sense. Have you ever been to Ohio? I have, recently. Nice zoo, but that;'s about it. For a short term stay it wouldn't be bad at all, but for an extended length of time? I don't think so. It's too far removed from salt water, fresh seafood, good ethnic food and significant mountains for my tastes. I wish you well in your move. Each state I've lived in has had it's challenges. You're in for some culture shock, for sure.

that is correct. I've been in El Paso for the last six months for the Army I like it. Yeah it's hot as B*lls here right now. the people are nice, food pretty darn good the traffic not so bad. It's Texas gun laws here are well way better than in Kailfiornia.

Texas is a great state I have been to it several times in the last few years. but every state is different but when it comes to gun laws it's night and day compared to our crappy state.

I agree with the OP he has done what is best for him. I too will not retire in CA. the reason being I want to be able to afford to live and enjoy the rest of my years. I may move before I retire but plan is to be gone either before or just after retirement.

[njineermike]

that is correct. I've been in El Paso for the last six months for the Army I like it. Yeah it's hot as B*lls here right now. the people are nice, food pretty darn good the traffic not so bad. It's Texas gun laws here are well way better than in Kailfiornia.

Texas is a great state I have been to it several times in the last few years. but every state is different but when it comes to gun laws it's night and day compared to our crappy state.

I agree with the OP he has done what is best for him. I too will not retire in CA. the reason being I want to be able to afford to live and enjoy the rest of my years. I may move before I retire but plan is to be gone either before or just after retirement.

Bolded is the decision my wife and I made. We went from a $2300/month rent to $1800/month mortgage, went from a postage stamp of land to 10 acres, hpme sizes are the same, went from a nazi-esque HOA to rural with livestock and a garden, we went from noise traffic crime and smog to the wind blowing in the trees, unlocked doors and fresh mountian air, and did it all at the same pay I had in San Diego. Income taxes went down, sales taxes went down, health insurance costs went down, vehicle registration costs went down, vehicle insurance costs went down, gas costs less, electricity costs less, no need for AC, and I have enough trees to run my wood burning stove for a lifetime, so its like getting a pay raise to boot. I'm not getting a .gov pension, so we need to be smarter about our finances once the time comes, and NOT being in California was the single smartest financial decision we've made in ages. I'd rather live my golden years with a coat on than living in section 8 housing.

El Paso? Sgt major acedemy?

[chris]

Bolded is the decision my wife and I made. We went from a $2300/month rent to $1800/month mortgage, went from a postage stamp of land to 10 acres, hpme sizes are the same, went from a nazi-esque HOA to rural with livestock and a garden, we went from noise traffic crime and smog to the wind blowing in the trees, unlocked doors and fresh mountian air, and did it all at the same pay I had in San Diego. Income taxes went down, sales taxes went down, health insurance costs went down, vehicle registration costs went down, vehicle insurance costs went down, gas costs less, electricity costs less, no need for AC, and I have enough trees to run my wood burning stove for a lifetime, so its like getting a pay raise to boot. I'm not getting a .gov pension, so we need to be smarter about our finances once the time comes, and NOT being in California was the single smartest financial decision we've made in ages.


El Paso? Sgt major acedemy?

my retirement from civil service is less than 750 a month. it's not as good as people think. I will have a military one as well. not as good as people think either. It's almost like OCD worrying about what little money I get after serving my country for over half of my life with no disabilities either. So I try to save as much as I can at work and still be able to pay my bills. Retirement in CA is not even considered.

I'm not at the SGM academy. I'm here with my unit dealing with mobilizing units. Did my overseas tour years ago. I'm only here to save money and to get more retirement points to help when I do retire. It's 365 retirement points which adds up to about 90 bucks more a month to my military retirement. every dollar counts these days.

So far it's been nice here. hot a as hell though.

Congrats on the property. I have thought about a 5 to 10 acre lot when I do move either have an external garage on the property already or get one built so I can have a shop at home. I like the central Texas area near Ft. Hood so I can go on base when I need to when I do retire.

[Stingray3]

That's a very short season too. I spend two weeks in Wyoming every year to shoot mulies, white tails and antelope, but I wouldn't want to live there, for what is only available a few weeks out of the year. I'm not that "hard core" a big game hunter. Oh, and antlers don't taste that great, no matter how you cook them, or process them.

Yeah its a short "gun" season, but if you add in blackpowder and archery it opens it up to many months of hunting whitetail. Just checked archery open from Sept 15th to Feb 5th, thats almost five months. Plus add to the fact that depending on where you hunt at, you could have the possibility of up to seven deer harvested both stag and doe (at least that way 15 years ago). This now changed to up to four deer depending on county you hunt. So many nice cornfed deer in many parts of the state, I used to joke we hunted deer the hard way with cars. Rarely could go anywhere especially around the cities without seeing one dead on the side of the road. I spent one summer working for ODOT (department of transportation) and we had to go out at least once a week to pick up a carcass off the road. Plus the hunting and fishing licenses are so much cheaper than here in CA.

[enough of my rant]

[roostersgt]

that is correct. I've been in El Paso for the last six months for the Army I like it. Yeah it's hot as B*lls here right now. the people are nice, food pretty darn good the traffic not so bad. It's Texas gun laws here are well way better than in Kailfiornia.

Texas is a great state I have been to it several times in the last few years. but every state is different but when it comes to gun laws it's night and day compared to our crappy state.

I agree with the OP he has done what is best for him. I too will not retire in CA. the reason being I want to be able to afford to live and enjoy the rest of my years. I may move before I retire but plan is to be gone either before or just after retirement.

Fort Bliss, awesome base. Son and I just drove back from there last month on the 10. He served at Beaumont for the past 4 years and is on terminal leave now. Texas also has no state income tax and wonderful people. Not a lot to do in El Paso though. At least you don't have to mow your yard each week, as nobody has a lawn there.

Highly suggest you try the tacos at El Taco Tote, if you haven't already found the place. Flame grilled meat and great chip bar.

[jamesob]

Voting with your feet...good for you! One of the many reasons this is the greatest country on earth. Take your taxes, hard work, productivity and countless other contributions you make as a functioning member of society to a state that deserves them. This one hasn't deserved ours for a long time. I will fight while I'm here, but look forward to the time when I can follow your lead. Best wishes.

The state won't miss him. Someone will fill his shoes when he leaves.

[highpower]

Bolded is the decision my wife and I made. We went from a $2300/month rent to $1800/month mortgage, went from a postage stamp of land to 10 acres, hpme sizes are the same, went from a nazi-esque HOA to rural with livestock and a garden, we went from noise traffic crime and smog to the wind blowing in the trees, unlocked doors and fresh mountian air, and did it all at the same pay I had in San Diego. Income taxes went down, sales taxes went down, health insurance costs went down, vehicle registration costs went down, vehicle insurance costs went down, gas costs less, electricity costs less, no need for AC, and I have enough trees to run my wood burning stove for a lifetime, so its like getting a pay raise to boot. I'm not getting a .gov pension, so we need to be smarter about our finances once the time comes, and NOT being in California was the single smartest financial decision we've made in ages. I'd rather live my golden years with a coat on than living in section 8 housing.

El Paso? Sgt major acedemy?

But, you won't be able to get fresh seafood.