Called it

[Angrysnarf]

http://libertyparkpress.com/new-gun-ban-push-launched-in-washington-oregon/

Those of you that left CA the bs is coming to you

[Quiet]

Progressives are using the "California model".
Which is take over one or two major urban areas of a State and use the political power that it will bring to bully the rest of the State to their whims, while everyone else is complacent with a "it'll never happen here" attitude.

Designated progressive take over sites...
For California, it's the SF Bay area and LA metro area.
For Oregon, it's the Portland area.
For Washington, it's the Seattle area.
For Colorado, it's the Denver area.
For Nevada, it's the Las Vegas area.
For Texas, it's the Austin area.

First step, pass "universal background check" laws.
Second step, pass "assault weapons" and "large capacity" ammunition feeding device bans.
Third step, replace "shall issue" CCW with "may issue" CCW.

[beardog308]

One thing Oregon has that California doesn't is a huge backwards azz Hillbilly population. It aint gonna fly. Ten miles outside Portland, and you're in a different Oregon.

ETA- My sister from Portland is visiting my mom in Big Bear. I asked my mom if my sister knows my mom builds AR's. Nope. Not her business. Mom turns 71 in two weeks and is getting ready to pull up stakes in CA because of CA insanity.

[iLWRC]

Progressives are using the "California model".
Which is take over one or two major urban areas of a State and use the political power that it will bring to bully the rest of the State to their whims, while everyone else is complacent with a "it'll never happen here" attitude.

Designated progressive take over sites...
For California, it's the SF Bay area and LA metro area.
For Oregon, it's the Portland area.
For Washington, it's the Seattle area.
For Colorado, it's the Denver area.
For Nevada, it's the Las Vegas area.
For Texas, it's the Austin area.

First step, pass "universal background check" laws.
Second step, pass "assault weapons" and "large capacity" ammunition feeding device bans.
Third step, replace "shall issue" CCW with "may issue" CCW.

Fourth step, ensure the courts don't rule in favor of pro 2a cases.

Where/when is the tipping point...?

[Milsurp Collector]

http://libertyparkpress.com/new-gun-...ington-oregon/

Those of you that left CA the bs is coming to you

Called it? Two gun control groups announced that they want to pass more gun control. That's supposed to be your amazing prediction? Don't waste money trying to pick the winning Lotto numbers.

It's sad that some California gun owners who apparently aren't willing to leave a state that already has some of the worst gun control laws in the country and where things are definitely getting even worse seem to be hoping that things get worse in other states, just to justify their refusal to move to freedom. Sad.

Third step, replace "shall issue" CCW with "may issue" CCW.

Where has that happened anywhere in the country? Nowhere. Quite the opposite has happened.

[Angrysnarf]

One thing Oregon has that California doesn't is a huge backwards azz Hillbilly population. It aint gonna fly. Ten miles outside Portland, and you're in a different Oregon.

ETA- My sister from Portland is visiting my mom in Big Bear. I asked my mom if my sister knows my mom builds AR's. Nope. Not her business. Mom turns 71 in two weeks and is getting ready to pull up stakes in CA because of CA insanity.

If follow CA example it will still happen

[Angrysnarf]

Called it? Two gun control groups announced that they want to pass more gun control. That's supposed to be your amazing prediction? Don't waste money trying to pick the winning Lotto numbers.

It's sad that some California gun owners who apparently aren't willing to leave a state that already has some of the worst gun control laws in the country and where things are definitely getting even worse seem to be hoping that things get worse in other states, just to justify their refusal to move to freedom. Sad.



Where has that happened anywhere in the country? Nowhere. Quite the opposite has happened.

When I said run away but CA type laws will come to you so yes called it

But interpet how you like if it makes you feel better

There was no hoping only reality

Deal with the world we have not the one we want

[Jimmy's]

It's always those that won't leave that bring this on. LOL!

[beardog308]

If follow CA example it will still happen

Until you move out of CA, you'll never know how oppressed you were. I felt like I escaped an abusive relationship once I was in AZ for two weeks.

The locals here will never accept your theory.

[Angrysnarf]

Until you move out of CA, you'll never know how oppressed you were. I felt like I escaped an abusive relationship once I was in AZ for two weeks.

The locals here will never accept your theory.

I don't need them to.....

[Quiet]

Where has that happened anywhere in the country? Nowhere. Quite the opposite has happened.

Post-1980 USA, no where yet, because they are still several years out from implementing their plans.
(before CA became "may issue" in 1923, CA was "constitutional carry")

Because of the Ninth Circuit en banc ruling in Peruta v San Deigo, anti-gun politicians in WA and OR are convinced that it is now legal to change the "shall issue" CCW laws their States to "may issue" and they can use the Ninth Circuit Court ruling to push it (CCW change) through to become law.

[Angrysnarf]

It's always those that won't leave that bring this on. LOL!

Right now those that left are a very small minority so they don't care

Rest either like it as is or simply can't leave I'm glad you people were able to leave, stay there and enjoy.

I may be leaving......to Florida..... Meh

If everything is approved here..... And yes I would be running away, for a better job and awesome gun laws

[Angrysnarf]

Post-1980 USA, no where yet, because they are still several years out from implementing their plans.
(before CA became "may issue" in 1923, CA was "constitutional carry")

Because of the Ninth Circuit en banc ruling in Peruta v San Deigo, anti-gun politicians in WA and OR are convinced that it is now legal to change the "shall issue" CCW laws their States to "may issue" and they can use the Ninth Circuit Court ruling to push it (CCW change) through to become law.

People think that people that won't leave CA are the reason.... Wrong it's gonna happen as long as the demsare in power

Clinton will accelerate

[blasterp7]

Until you move out of CA, you'll never know how oppressed you were. I felt like I escaped an abusive relationship once I was in AZ for two weeks.

The locals here will never accept your theory.

If Hillary wins - it isn't going to be a local issue

[Milsurp Collector]

When I said run away but CA type laws will come to you so yes called it

There was no hoping only reality

Deal with the world we have not the one we want

I'll just have to repost something I posted in another thread. Just because things have gone to hell in California it doesn't mean it's going to happen in all of the other states. In fact, while things are bad and getting worse in California, gun rights are strong and getting stronger in most other states.

One of the common memes I see from the "stay and fighters" is "you can run away, but where are you going to run when California-style gun control comes to your new state?" or "fight the infection here before it spreads to other states!", as if it is inevitable that California-style gun control will spread across the country. It's like they think they are trying to scare little kids: "no matter where you run, the bogeyman is going to get you!!" Please.

I ran across an article on gunsandammo.com that ranked the 50 states and DC for gun owners.

What was interesting was seeing the amount of pro-gun legislation being proposed in other states, even if it sometimes failed or was vetoed. It certainly throws a lot of cold water on the "stay and fighters'" meme of inevitable California-style gun gun control spreading across the country. I could see how if you live in California where gun rights are under constant assault someone might think it had to be like that in the rest of the country, but it just isn't true.

While the California Legislature does nothing but crank out more and more gun control laws, legislatures in other states are trying to strengthen gun rights. California is headed in one direction, and most of the rest of the country is headed in the opposite direction.

1. Arizona2. Vermont5. Kentucky

Kentucky passed a bill this year modernizing some of the training standards for its CCW permits, making the process to obtain a permit potentially even easier.

7. Alabama8. Kansas9. Missouri

Missouri is one of those states that has done an about-face on its gun laws in the past several years. A ballot initiative affirming the Second Amendment rights of Missouri residents passed with more than 60 percent of the votes in August 2014. Known once as one of the last holdouts against CCW, the Show Me State is now ahead of the curve when it comes to gun rights.

11. Montana

Montana has legalized the use of suppressors when hunting.

13. Georgia15. Texas16. Indiana

Short-barreled shotguns (SBSs) are now allowed under state law as of July 1, and no restrictions are imposed upon tactical firearms or magazine capacity.

17. Louisiana

Louisiana does not restrict NFA items, and as of 2014, it allows suppressors to be used when hunting.

18. Mississippi19. North Carolina

Governor Pat McCrory (R) signed House Bill 562 into law, making official the passage of the third NRA-backed omnibus pro-gun reform bill in the last three legislative sessions. HB 562 makes several important changes to North Carolina gun laws, including:

20. Pennsylvania

Last fall, outgoing-Gov. Tom Corbett signed a strong preemption bill to ensure that gun laws are consistent across the Keystone State and allows groups such as the National Rifle Association to sue cities that defy state gun laws.

21. West Virginia22. Nevada23. Tennessee25. Wisconsin26. North Dakota

Governor Jack Dalrymple has signed a stack of pro-gun bills in 2015, including one that requires CLEOs to sign for NFA transfers within 30 days. Another bill expanded the rights of CCW permit holders, and a third bill allows both employees and students of universities to store firearms in their vehicles on campus.

29. Maine30. Oklahoma31. Arkansas32. Idaho

The state cleaned up its CCW law this year, making it easier to interpret, and it lowered the fees. The State of Idaho actually issues a Friends of the NRA license plate, destined to get a road-tripper pulled over in the Mid-Atlantic or Northeast.

33. Michigan35. Ohio39. Minnesota44. Maryland

Surprisingly, California was not ranked last (it is #46), which means there is still room for things to get even worse for California gun owners.

46. California