DROS and the 10 day wait.....

[Blue]

I bought a new pistol last Sunday...and the clerk at the store told me that during my 10 day wait, for $5 I can "rent" my gun from them. They'll pull it from the safe and let me shoot it at their indoor range. They also said that if for some reason my DROS gets rejected, and I have shot the gun I'll be charged for the used price of the gun or something like that. I thought that DROS was pretty instant? Or does the DOJ actually research you during those 10 days?

[Mudvayne540ld]

I thought it was prety instant to. Like with in a day or so.

[SVTNate]

Charge you to shoot your own gun? That's ridiculous. I know of a couple local places that have a range and an FFL, and they will let you shoot your gun as much as you want during the 10 day waiting period. It just can't leave the building. Of course, you may have to pay for the range time just like anyone else, but no extra charges for shooting a day that's still under the 10-day wait.

And yes, of course the 10 days is a cooling off period. I would have laughed in his face, taken my money back, and gone to a different dealer that isn't sleazy and dishonest.

[BobFirewood]

Charge you to shoot your own gun? That's ridiculous. I know of a couple local places that have a range and an FFL, and they will let you shoot your gun as much as you want during the 10 day waiting period. It just can't leave the building.

Iron Sights in Oceanside used to let you shoot your gun during the 10 day wait, but then they changed their policy. They said if the DROS was denied they would then have a used gun on their hands.

I've begun to think that the 10 day wait is so that the gun can cool off. I already have four handguns, if I was going to do something stupid I'd just use one of the ones I have. So, obviously it's the gun that must cool off before I take possession of it, lest it influence me to do bad things.

[Blue]

Iron Sights in Oceanside used to let you shoot your gun during the 10 day wait, but then they changed their policy. They said if the DROS was denied they would then have a used gun on their hands.

OK So does it take 10 days for your background to clear or is it instant? I always thought the 10 days was so that you didn't go buy a gun and go kill your co-workers/ex/whoever you're pissed at. But do DROS's ever get denied in the middle of your wait? I was under the impression once the DROS form printed out, you passed.

[TonyM]

OK So does it take 10 days for your background to clear or is it instant? I always thought the 10 days was so that you didn't go buy a gun and go kill your co-workers/ex/whoever you're pissed at. But do DROS's ever get denied in the middle of your wait? I was under the impression once the DROS form printed out, you passed.

Just talked to a cousin that used to work at Target Masters part time a some years back, he claims that they did receive at least one "No-Go" call from the DOJ late in the waiting period, like the day before pickup.

I think for the most part it's just a cool off period, but if they happen to dig something questionable up that isn't formally on your record they could put a halt on it.

Sometime in the last two years a member here had an issue, I believe it was a questionable history as a minor. He owned plenty of guns, but when he applied for a C&R they uncovered an "issue" with his record and informed him he was denied, and wasn't legally allowed to own any firearms.

So, as you can see... this expensive system works great!

[bg]

OK So does it take 10 days for your background to clear or is it instant? I always thought the 10 days was so that you didn't go buy a gun and go kill your co-workers/ex/whoever you're pissed at. But do DROS's ever get denied in the middle of your wait? I was under the impression once the DROS form printed out, you passed.

Mine was and I thank that Damn Grey Davis for it, though
I also blame my self for being sooo stupid. I had bought
a Ruger Vaq in late Dec of 99. I cleared the DROS and
Ca's 10 day wait period as I had in the past. I took the
weapon home with me on the 21st of Dec.

So here comes Jan and I find the guy who runs the gun
shop I'd visit, was getting really bad from prostate cancer.
He calls me and tells me that he has a NIB Colt Python
in Royal blue-6" barrel length from 81 or 82, and I can
have it for 575.00 + DROS, but I'd have to come down
that day or the next to start the paperwork as he knew
he was running out of time. So I did. Couldn't pass up a
Colt Python up especially when I had read Colt was
going to stop making them..Smart investor me..

I go down to Jerry's GunWorld in Highland when it was
still there on the 11th of Jan 2000 I believe, pay for
the gun, pay for Jerry's high price of 35.00 bucks for
DROS at the time, and start the wait...Here's where
the "fun" starts. I get a call from Jerry's wife a few
days before I was to pick up the weapon. She tells
me I've been rejected by the DOJ and they won't
process the weapon. I'm like WTH ? She
tells me there was a problem. I said there can't be.
I just bought a weapon from Turner's in San Berdoo.
I bought a Ruger in Dec.

She says well thats it then. Thats why you can't get the
Colt. Why ? I ask....

She says I am one of the very first to get caught up
in the states new 30 DAY WAITING PERIOD !
I'll have to wait until the 30 days has cleared
from the purchase of the Ruger back in Dec, then
refile a new DROS app for the Colt, and that'll be
another 35.00 thank you !

I was so upset about this, but there was little I could
do but wait for the 31 days after the Ruger purchase
and refile DROS on the Colt for a total cost of 70.00
plus wait an additional 10 days for the so called
cooling off period.

I still have the Python, have never shot it and when
I clean it and look at it after words, it always brings
up memories of the bogus BS I went through, thanks
to more moronic anti gun laws, and I admit my own
stupidity. ==

[Maddog5150]

well, kalifornia prides themselves on how far in technology they are than other states yet doj tries to tell us it takes at least several days. I finally spoke to a doj agent once who was a straight shooter and he told me that the background check that you go through to get a gun is the same thing as to what a cop gets when he pulls up your info at a traffic stop. dont know if thats true but it sounds pretty effing instant to me.

[VeryCoolCat]

Yes its instant... thus instant checks.

There are local checks and federal checks.

Local usually has more crap on you than federal. All in all... most checks particularly more advanced technology states CAN have instant checks. The 10 day wait is to prevent you from buying it then go shooting up your work place the same day.

Though its a stupid law and doesn't really work as we have learned in the past.


Though... I won't lie to you ..... backgrounds checks do stop a lot of people from getting guns. I was talking to the guy at big 5 he told me 1 out of 10 people fail the dros.

[kantstudien]

No, it is not "instant" nor is it "federal." That would be a NICS check, not applicable for California.

The 10 days are for DOJ to dig up dirt on you and then inform the dealer if you are found "ineligible" to purchase firearms because you are a:
1) felon
2) habitual speeder/DUI/suspended license
3) wife-beater
4) etc.

If they find nothing in your background which would prohibit you from owning a firearm, then the dealer is told nothing. No news is good news in this case.

[Ford8N]

I've never understood why we have to go through the background check and cooling off period if we already own a gun.

[Blue]

I've never understood why we have to go through the background check and cooling off period if we already own a gun.

I could understand the background check, maybe last month Joe Schmoe beat his wife and the police took his guns. But the waiting period? Come on, if I already own 20+ guns what's the deal?

[M. Sage]

No, it is not "instant" nor is it "federal." That would be a NICS check, not applicable for California.

The 10 days are for DOJ to dig up dirt on you and then inform the dealer if you are found "ineligible" to purchase firearms because you are a:
1) felon
2) habitual speeder/DUI/suspended license
3) wife-beater
4) etc.

If they find nothing in your background which would prohibit you from owning a firearm, then the dealer is told nothing. No news is good news in this case.

Umm, yeah, because the police don't have a system in place that can check your record at the tap of a few keys...

Now, I'm not saying that the DOJ doesn't put off their checks... they probably do just to make it SEEM like it takes ten days. "Hey, look, on day 8 we found out this guy's got a felony on his record!" Umm, nothing you couldn't find out in the first 30 minutes, skippy. It just means they're procrastinating on the check.

[Blue]

Part of the reason I ask is because I bought a pistol last week (new) and I'm doing a PPT today on another pistol. I recently moved and I don't want my DROS to get rejected TWICE if my change of address form didn't get processed or something stupid like that. My DROS last Sunday went through fine although I don't know how much the address plays into it.

[leelaw]

I've never understood why we have to go through the background check and cooling off period if we already own a gun.

It's not about making sense, it's about suspending our Constitutional rights for over a week.