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  • #16
    IncVoid
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    • Jan 2011
    • 470

    Originally posted by Quiet
    A few years back, friend of mine with a RAW died.
    The Executor of his Estate contacted CA DOJ BOF to try and de-register the RAW.
    CA DOJ BOF informed him only the owner of the RAW can de-register it and since the owner is deceased it can no longer be de-registered.



    CA has Dangerous Weapons Permits for:
    1. Destructive Device
    2. Machine Gun
    3. Short Barrel Rifle
    4. Short Barrel Shotgun
    5. Assault Weapon / .50BMG Rifle

    In order to get a Dangerous Weapons Permit, you need a "good cause".

    Inheriting it is not a valid "good cause".

    Acceptable "good cause" for obtaining a Dangerous Weapons Permit.
    1. For importing, making, and transferring to Gov/Mil/LE agencies, LEOs, and FFLs.
    2. For training, research, and development pursuant to a Gov/Mil contract.
    3. For use as a prop in the entertainment (movie/tv) industry.
    4. For repair and maintenance for legal owners (Gov/Mil/LE agency and DWP holders).

    Dangerous Weapons Permits have more restrictions and conditions than RAWs.
    (transportation, storage, inspection, annual fees)


    For the last several years, CA DOJ BOF have been informing CA FFL dealers with assault weapons permits that it is a violation of their good cause for having the permit to convert assault weapons into non-assault weapons and that doing so, is grounds to have their permit revoked and their inventory confiscated.

    Which means the CA FFL dealer can not legally de-register an assault weapon by making it into a non-assault weapon.
    But an out of state dealer can't do it either right? that serial stays on californias roster as an AW even if the firearm never comes back into state?

    That is such b.s. lol, I mean the stance, not the info you have given.
    Then how do they import what would be an AW then make it >30inches etc and then sell as a non AW? Maybe I am thinking of off roster hand guns back in those exemption days, or turning double action into single action that can be done in state.

    I take it that is why FFLs want their fixed mag builds to start from virgin receivers?

    I guess it remains one of those "deathbed" things for now... But they can still do it now?
    so is now the time to transfer the firearms to the kids? kinda mooted my own point I 'spose cause if they are already 18 they can buy their own. oh well.

    What if the two lil rollers were attached together but able to spin like string through the middle of them? as well as attached to the follower so they don't get lost?
    Last edited by IncVoid; 07-20-2016, 10:37 PM.
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    • #17
      Quiet
      retired Goon
      • Mar 2007
      • 30241

      Originally posted by IncVoid
      But an out of state dealer can't do it either right? that serial stays on californias roster as an AW even if the firearm never comes back into state?
      Correct.
      Registered via make, model, serial number, and caliber.

      Originally posted by IncVoid
      Then how do they import what would be an AW then make it >30inches etc and then sell as a non AW? Maybe I am thinking of off roster hand guns back in those exemption days, or turning double action into single action that can be done in state.
      It needs to be made CA legal prior to being imported into CA.
      Last edited by Quiet; 07-20-2016, 11:58 PM.
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      • #18
        HibikiR
        Senior Member
        • May 2014
        • 2417

        Originally posted by IncVoid
        future quote I'm thinking it might have to be riveted to the upper "sight rail" to hold it it in place. I am thinking if you can shim something below the to access the take down plunger, just make the old catch not move at all. so you have to move the upper forward to get enough clearance.
        Well, most of the magazine body could be bound to action.

        The remaining part of the magazine body and feed lips could "receive" the other half and have a hole through both sides of the body above the upper release button and allow it to be activated with a long roll pin punch.

        To reload:
        1) Push upper release with roll pin punch, slide upper out slightly before removing roll pin punch.
        2) Remove conjoined upper, magazine floorplate, limiter, magazine spring, follower, magazine body assembly
        3) Drop in 10 rounds into magazine body stub still attached to stock, careful not to lose the rollers
        4) Guide spring and follower into stub, reattach upper and unite the magazine bodies.
        Last edited by HibikiR; 07-21-2016, 6:27 AM.

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        • #19
          IncVoid
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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          • Jan 2011
          • 470

          While side tracked, I remember somebody saying, a certain type (I dont' know the enumeration) of malfunction in an AR, will hold the bolt open and the new types of magazine fixing devices prevent dropping the mag cause you can't pivot the upper. Not to mention you have to pivot the upper to remove the mag, so the "last round bolt catch" feature is miffed.

          So I thought what if I use that old bolt catch slot for something?





          too flimsy and I have no way of threading it to hold the other half of the mag button.
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          • #20
            saki302
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2005
            • 7187

            You know what- if you used a set screw from the top to hold that mag catch in place, it would work and be CA compliant.

            -Dave

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            • #21
              IncVoid
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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              • Jan 2011
              • 470

              Originally posted by saki302
              You know what- if you used a set screw from the top to hold that mag catch in place, it would work and be CA compliant.

              -Dave
              My picture was poorly taken, it has a ledge that catches the upper.


              it holds! it just needs the old bullet button to hold it stable on the other side.
              I need somebody with a mill or cnc to make one outta metal for me.

              I got one for the AK? attach something to the dust cover that blocks or is the mag release, and make the recoil spring read guide piece button longer, so it has to be undone to get the dust cover off?
              Last edited by IncVoid; 07-23-2016, 2:23 PM.
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